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The Real Star Raiders II


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#1 MaximumRD

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Posted 11 December 2015 - 06:46 PM

Caught this post on Facebook so I am sharing here - 

 

Original post by ‎Kevin Savetz‎ 

 

Released for the first time today — a holiday present from Aric Wilmunder: the unreleased, almost-finished sequel to Star Raiders for the Atari 8-bits. He created and developed it while working in the R&D lab of Atari coin-op.

 

(This is not the Last Straighter rebranded game. Aric told me, “When The Last Starfighter didn’t do well in the theaters and marketing re-branded the Atari 800 Last Starfighter game as Star Raiders II, they didn’t take into account that there was already an actual sequel to Star Raiders that was just a few months away from completion. I was the designer and solo engineer who worked for about a year on the project as a member of an R&D team inside Atari Coin-Op.")

My interview with Aric is published on the ANTIC podcast today.

 

http://ataripodcast....emple-of-apshai

 

Here's video of it in action:

 

 

The ATR File and Documentation:

https://archive.org/...ersII_Wilmunder


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Posted 11 December 2015 - 08:42 PM

Just an amazing find, just bloody amazing.

 

How this stayed hidden for so long, just beggars belief, but OMG...what could of been.

 

I have to say, as someone who spends an awful lot of time looking into lost games, it simply amazes me when things like this, plus:7800 Toki just turn up with no warning and then you hear a coder say..ohh yeah, by the way i converted Paperboy onto the 7800, delivered it to Atari but it was never released.

 

It just goes to show that for all the internal documents etc recovered from Atari over the years, collected Press reports etc there is still so much left to be done by the community.

 

 

This year alone i've seen the above, newer version of AVP on the Lynx, been able to share my findings on what became of numerous A8/ST/7800/Jaguar titles.....

 

 

GTW recovered the much sought after C64 Daffy Duck, once thought lost for ever.

 

 

And i also read tonight that an ST game lost for 25 years, has finally been recovered (it has no sound i think though)...Lupo Alberto.

 

 

If so much has been done in 2015, i wonder what 2016 will bring?.


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Posted 11 December 2015 - 08:57 PM

I second what Lost Dragon said.  It's an amazing discovery! 

 

Star Raiders is one of my favorite games of ALL TIME.  To have found Star Raiders II, and be able to play it -- OMG!  The only disappointment I can possibly think of is that Star Raiders programmer Doug Neubauer wasn't involved.  I wonder why? 

 

Thank you so much for posting this. 


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#4 Bakerman

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Posted 11 December 2015 - 09:22 PM

I have to repeat Lost Dragon, bloody amazing! Finally a true sequel! How far from completion is this actually, it looks pretty complete to me from the video (though I only watched like 2 min. before having to comment.
I am a fan of the re-branded Star Raiders II, and the actual Star Fighter version that was released some years ago, with the Frontier included and all. But this "3D" Star Raiders II is the best yet! Of love this early "3D" stuff, whether vector like Battlezone and Mercenary, or 3D "dot" style like this. Now I really have to dig my 1200XL out of storage and repair it, just so I can play this!

 

Bloody amazing!

 

Now, where's that unheard of lost copy of Atari 8-bit Elite? :xevious_solavou:
It's stuff like this, popping up 31 years after the fact, out of no where, and the other stuff that Lost Dragon mentioned above, that still makes me believe we are still not finished having "lost" games suddenly show up for every Atari from the 2600 to the Jaguar. And all other vintage consoles too! As I like to say: Never say never. In what can be found, and in what a system is actually capable of in the right programmer's hands. Often beyond what the designers and engineers even thought possible! Any time someone tells me something is impossible, the only thing I think is that they just don't have the imagination or capacity themselves.

 

The best thing to happen to Atari 8-bits in maybe forever, but at least since we got that incredible version of Space Harrier.


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Posted 11 December 2015 - 11:42 PM

This is absolutely.. incredible. Not simply that this game turned up out of no where, but that the visual effects are so stunning.   :pole_position_blimp:


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#6 The Professor

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Posted 12 December 2015 - 04:43 AM

I was waiting for this to be a hoax until I saw it with my own two eyes. That this even exists is amazing.
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#7 Lost Dragon

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Posted 13 December 2015 - 11:05 AM

Total wishful thinking on my part here but.....

 

After seeing this, i SO wish Atari had seen this project finished, put out on cartridge and as a launch title for the XEGS games system.

 

The original Star Raiders sold a lot of A400/800's here in the UK and the XEGS needed a flagship exclusive, maybe even more could of been done with it, having it on cart? i'm not sure.

 

Hell call it Star Raiders III/Star Raiders 2000 what ever, it needed to be out there, showcasing the A8 hardware was far from done yet.


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#8 LeeJ07

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Posted 13 December 2015 - 12:33 PM

Makes one wonder what other lost and unknown prototypes are still out there...


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Posted 13 December 2015 - 04:34 PM

:-) Well, if this time last year someone had told me that in 12 months time, we'd of discovered so much more about what became of titles we knew were at least planned across various Atari platforms, i'd of been very cynical, thinking too many years had gone by for info.to be found, but if they'd also said we'd of learnt of 7800 Paperboy, Toki etc and there was an undiscovered version of Star Raiders II out there, i'd of asked for a pint of what they were drinking :-)

 

 

It really has been a most amazing year, across the board.

 

 

If 2016 is even 1/2 as forthcoming with info/actual code, hold onto your hats :-)


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#10 MaximumRD

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Posted 13 December 2015 - 06:06 PM

My understanding is this was the original sequel as planned for the Atari 8-bit line only.
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#11 The Professor

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Posted 13 December 2015 - 06:28 PM

Star Raiders was so well known on Atari 2600 it's likely there would have been one developed after this was released. Had things been different and Warner not sold off Atari, we could have seen Star Raiders II come to the 7800!
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#12 Justin

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Posted 23 December 2015 - 03:11 AM

Willie! posted a wonderful review of this game, I wanted to share it here in the Star Raiders II thread. Enjoy:

 


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Posted 19 January 2016 - 03:50 PM

I'm playing this game now and trying to learn how to play it.  So far I like what I see but I orbited a planet and don't know what the h - e - double hockey sticks I'm suppose to do when that happens.  

 

In all fairness, this game reminds me of Star Voyager for the NES with the planet landing and such.  I always did say that Star Voyager was a steroid-enhanced version of Star Raiders.  Star Raiders II official release was not bad, good challenge, but just didn't feel like a Star Raiders game to me.  Now this shows up and it is immediately recognizable as a Star Raiders game of some sort.  I like what it has done to move the "series", if you want to call it that, forward with new and interesting features.

 

My all-time favorite game is Star Raiders on the 5200.  During 2005 I picked up an 800 and bought Star Raiders and Star Raiders II.  I immediately played Star Raiders when they arrived.  So I am giving this game a fair amount of time to learn the do's and don'ts with the game.  I plan to write a review on the game once I learn it.  So far it's good if not a bit more complicated to figure out.






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