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Real Master System, Power Base Converter, or Master Gear?


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#21 nosweargamer

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Posted 06 March 2017 - 05:59 PM

Did the US get MS releases of things like:

 

Power Strike II (Very different to Game Gear version) No. We got the original, but it was mail order only and pretty rare today.

 

Masters Of Combat No

 

Prince Of Persia No

 

Buggy Run No

 

Light Phaser version of:Assault City No. We didn't get either version

 

Fire And Forget II No

 

MK II No

 

Micro Machines No

 

Road Rash No

 

T2:Arcade Game No

 

 

Mind you, you guys had:

 

 

King's Quest:Quest For The Crown Never played it

 

Alf Want it, but heard it's terrible

 

Golden Axe warrior Great game, Wikipedia says it was released in the UK

 

Few others did you not?

I wasn't aware of any other US exclusives, but Wikipedia says Casino Games, Galaxy Force, Great Ice Hockey and Monopoly did not come out in the UK. Also I hear our version of Captain Silver had stuff cut out and is not as good. Some of the above UK games mentioned did appear as Game Gear titles.


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Posted 07 March 2017 - 06:18 AM

I've seen Golden Axe warrior on Game Gear here in UK, but not Master System, might be a rarer title or just something i missed at the time. It was unfairly slagged off (along with MS Golden Axe) in the RetroGamer Magazine feature on Golden Axe i read some months ago, but then the comments in features like these never seem to tie-up with the review scores awarded from UK Press at the time (Strider II, Tiertex, another, well recieved by likes of Zero+Raze on the ST, YS on the Spectrum..it is an awful title, but when a feature claimed it was reviewed poorly at release, it's just not an accurate historical feature...) Wowza seems it's pretty slim pickings if your a US Master system collector, looks like UK for once got the lions share of the software.


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Posted 07 March 2017 - 10:30 AM

I've seen Golden Axe warrior on Game Gear here in UK.

I think you might be confusing that with Ax Battler: A Legend Of Golden Axe on Game Gear. Golden Axe Warrior was an SMS exclusive.
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Posted 07 March 2017 - 02:55 PM

Your right i bloody was... :)

 

 

How many spin off's were there for Golden Axe?

 

So the SMS exclusive was an RPG?

 

Blimey, people here in UK moan about Sony milking franchises, but Sega seem no stranger to that game either...

 

Some awful titles as a result (cough, Cyber Shinobi...etc).


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Posted 07 March 2017 - 03:16 PM

Your right i bloody was... :)

 

 

How many spin off's were there for Golden Axe?

 

So the SMS exclusive was an RPG?

 

Blimey, people here in UK moan about Sony milking franchises, but Sega seem no stranger to that game either...

 

Some awful titles as a result (cough, Cyber Shinobi...etc).

 

As far as spin offs go, I'm only aware of Ax Battler on the Game Gear and Golden Axe Warrior (plays like a good zelda rip off) on the SMS. There was also a one on one fighter in the arcade and on Saturn I believe.


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Posted 07 March 2017 - 03:49 PM

How many spin off's were there for Golden Axe?

So the SMS exclusive was an RPG?

Yeah, it was essentially Sega's version of The Legend Of Zelda. It's actually pretty good, although it's very rare.

The spin-offs of Golden Axe include Golden Axe Warrior, Ax Battler: A Legend Of Golden Axe, Golden Axe - The Duel, and Golden Axe: Beast Rider (most people say spin-off, but some say main series).
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Posted 07 October 2018 - 10:53 PM

I have been away from this site for way too long. I was searching for some info about the Power Base Converter today and was pleasantly surprised to have stumbled across this old forum thread I made over a year ago. I hate to bump an old thread, but since I'd like to finally tell you guys the end of my story about my search for a way to play Master System games, I'll post it here.

I got that model 1 Genesis earlier this year and have been enjoying it a lot and I did get a new Game Gear a month after this thread was started. This left me with all three options for playing SMS games. I decided against the Master Gear Converter awhile back so I was down to two options. Yesterday, I went to my local flea market for the first time in six months to finally buy myself a Master System, but then I saw something I never thought I'd find locally. The Power Base Converter! I bought it for $45 and got After Burner and Altered Beast complete in box for $25 which seems a little high for two common SMS games, but not is the Canadian dollar different, but also everyone here tends to charge more. I plan on collecting the entire North American SMS game library complete in box and I do hope to get a real SMS this Christmas (I found one complete in box for $125).

I do have one question though. The Power Base Converter almost doesn't work. I think there's something wrong with my Genesis because I took it back to the flea market and tested it on the Genesis the guy originally tested it with and it worked perfectly. The issue is, most of the time, all I get is a black screen. Genesis games work fine, but not the PBC. I have to repeatedly pull it out and reinsert it and just hope it'll work and the odd time it randomly will and I can enjoy the PSG version of Final Take Off while blasting fighter jets out of the sky. On the flea market Genesis, it had no issue, but on mine at home, even just changing the game or turning the console off will screw it up for the next time I try to play it. Does anyone know what the issue might be?

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Posted 07 October 2018 - 11:21 PM

Great news on finding that PBC!  I kind of went the other way and finally found a real Master System. 

 

As far as the issue you have, it's probably a dirty cart connector.  Take the PBC out and clean the pins that go into the Genesis cart port with q-tips and alcohol.  Clean it several times.  I mean clean it, plug it into the genesis.  Take it out, and clean it again.  2 times should do it.

 

The other suggestion is to make sure you're using a good "Sega" branded power adapter on the Genesis.  Should be the kind that puts out 1.2 amps. 


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Posted 07 October 2018 - 11:45 PM

I did your first suggestion earlier today, but as for the other one, I'm using an AtGamer power cable XD. I'll try to get an official one later this week. I had to repeatedly turn my Genesis on and off (about 100 or more times today) earlier when I was trying to get the PBC to work. That wouldn't have hurt my Genesis, PBC, or either SMS game, right?

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Posted 08 October 2018 - 12:40 AM

I don't think so.

Check the amperage output on that power supply. If it's less than 1a, it's too low.

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Posted 08 October 2018 - 11:36 AM

I'm not exactly sure what to look for. Electrical stuff like that is not something I'm good with. However, I do think this cable is giving the Genesis insufficient power and that the PBC is pushing it too hard and refuses to run after awhile. I have it running Altered Beast at the moment just fine and even restarting the console worked too, but I have a feeling that if I try again later, it won't. I'm going to go buy a proper power cable today.
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Posted 08 October 2018 - 11:45 AM

There's usually a label on the power brick.  Look for the "Output: " line.  Although sometimes you need eagle eyes and good lighting to actually read the dang thing. 



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Posted 09 October 2018 - 05:28 PM

Yeah...I don't trust any wall warts that are less than 1amp for the Genesis. I'm still not sure how on earth those Retrobit adapters sell?! They are only 350ma?! that is .35amps.. Those adapters should be screaming in pain when the Genesis is rocking on a game with that full blast processing kicking in...


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Posted 09 October 2018 - 05:36 PM

I noticed the same thing while looking for Model 1 power adapters recently.  350ma!  No way! 

I found a 9V 1.2A brick at Goodwill for $2, but the polarity is wrong.  Easy enough to cut and reverse the connector, and that will be a future project for me. 



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Posted 09 October 2018 - 05:46 PM

I noticed the same thing while looking for Model 1 power adapters recently.  350ma!  No way! 

I found a 9V 1.2A brick at Goodwill for $2, but the polarity is wrong.  Easy enough to cut and reverse the connector, and that will be a future project for me. 

 

What upsets me way more is that the local retro game stores around here used to have plenty of Genny model 1 adapters for sale for like $3 - $5 each. Then the retrobit replacements come along and they have suddenly been impossible to find? 

 

I asked one of the store employees about it and they told me they cut the cords and toss the original adapters when they get them with the systems because they are old and feel that providing new replacements is better for their 30 day warranty policy they provide?! I was not happy to learn this as the model 1 genny supply can be used with so many other consoles!!!

 

We all know that the original adapters are going to live on for far longer than these cheap crappy ones they sell now. 

 

Sorry...It kills me a little inside everytime I think about it.


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Posted 10 October 2018 - 12:06 PM

I actually just bought one from RetroBit and it seems fine. 1000mA compared to the 500mA of my AtGames adapter. It also doesn't overheat like my AtGames one, but my Power Base Converter is still not working. I can play it for about 30 minutes and can keep switching games, but after that, the next time I turn the console off, it will refuse to run for at least an hour. Should I just give up and return it? The guy who sold me it will give me my money back so I can get his model 1 Master System.
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Posted 10 October 2018 - 03:23 PM

Is there another Genesis you can try it on? As I understand it, there's not much to the converter. The hardware is embedded in the Genesis itself. So I'm going to guess it's a Genesis issue, not a converter issue.
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Posted 10 October 2018 - 10:26 PM

I will be trying it on another one on Saturday. Hopefully it works. Otherwise, I'll have to buy a Master System. Speaking of buying things, would anyone here be interested in an original Nintendo 3DS? I'm going to try selling it locally first, but if that fails, I'll be willing to ship it to someone who wants it.
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Posted 11 October 2018 - 12:06 AM

I do not have a 3DS, so put me on the "interested" list. 


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Posted 11 October 2018 - 10:46 AM

Is there another Genesis you can try it on? As I understand it, there's not much to the converter. The hardware is embedded in the Genesis itself. So I'm going to guess it's a Genesis issue, not a converter issue.

 

You are correct on this Rick..


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