Just a few from C+VG
UK Games Press 7800 Scans.
Posted 15 March 2017 - 09:15 AM
So there you go.Add all these to the 5200 planned launch coverage in seperate thread and you've basically got the time line with sourced material, detailing the rocky road Atari UK travelled in finding a replacement for the aging 2600.
Was going to be the 5200, then 7800, ends up with XEGS and explains why, 7800 limps out after.
Why this was never mentioned in many of the more recent 5200/7800/XEGS articles in RG or why certain 'Historians' felt Bob Gleadow wasn't a trusted source, claimed he had an agenda, is beyond me, but here's the source material, plain to view.
Decide for yourselves good people.
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Posted 16 March 2017 - 12:16 PM
Given the sheer ease of obtaining these..wow i paid Mort £5 a DVD at the time to have physical copies of collected works of various UK magazines and fact 7800 plans etc were detailed so often in multiple magazines, looking back at it, why there had to be such an outburst of drama over on RG forum after i pointed out the XEGS article wriiten by a UK 'writer' and fact checked by a USA based 'Historian'..is just amazing.
Talk of having to have multiple sources..well there you go.
Bob Gleadow having an agenda.. shouldn't be taken as trusted source LMAO, likes of Darryl Still, Jack Tramiel sung his praises more than enough for myself to think he's a very valid source.
We shouldn't go on just what old magazines said-that point is very true, as the ACE article above let alone claims made by Raze, Ace, Zero+C+VG prove.You just use them as a starting point for investigation, but to lash out just because 2 supposed experts missed key actual events, covered on depth by NEWS sections at the time? just rather pathetic.
As i've made clear numerous times, 7800 not really been an Atari format of choice for myself, happy to talk to people from Gremlin, US Gold, Hewson etc about support or lack of, press claims made, interview Tiertex Coder of Paperboy etc and see if any more Lost games remain out there, but given manner in which it limped into UK, ot's never really been a deep enough format to look into, but, like the 5200, i did feel it was important Atari I.O had a historical record of the UK turn of events, backed up by press coverage from the time.
The articles are often part quoted/quoted out of context, so it's nice to have everything laid out in full, under 1 roof etc.
And where better than here?.
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Posted 17 March 2017 - 12:56 PM
Here's a list of (non-UK) 7800-related magazine articles:
September 1984 issue featured a 4-page article (pg. 26-29).
October 1984 issue had a Q&A question about it (pg. 92)
November 1984 issue had a Reader's Reply about it (pg. 18) and another article (pg. 66).
December 1984 issue featured reviews of Joust and Centipede (pg. 84)
January 1985 issue gave Joust an Arkie award (pg. 58).
March 1985 issue has a news blurb about Nitendo's AVS (AKA NES) and their plans for releasing it in the U.S. despite being "described as similar to Atari's never-released 7800".
Summer/Fall 1984 issue featured a 3-page article (pg. 25-27). The author felt certain the 7800 would never be released, based on comments Jack Tramiel made at the time.
The magazine issues are on my site: http://www.ataricomp...onic_games.html
Edited by Scott Stilphen, 17 March 2017 - 05:28 PM.
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Posted 19 March 2017 - 02:05 PM
Posted 20 March 2017 - 03:02 PM
@Scott:Started going through some of the mags you very kindly put up on your site, fantastic stuff
Had to 'adjust' to reviews being Disk/Cart as sooo used to Cass/Tape here in UK from that era.
And WOW, little to NO faith in Atari and then some at that point then? (Tramiel take over)
A reader told point blank the 7800 wasn't going to appear, serious doubts over Atari being able to manufacture 750,000 fault free ST computers...it being 1 thing to introduce the 130 and 520 St's at a Trade Show and quite another to get them made into a reality.
And YES! at last a review not blinded by Ballblazer
Reviewer describing it as an adequately entertaining game, that had excessive media hype and how it became quickly tiresome and was nothing more than a repetieve version of Soccer.
And i had no idea of Synapse's inital feelings towards the ST (Had wonder potential, but they weren't ready to develop for it)
And Broderbund saying they didn't work with people they were suing (Atari).
None of this EVER came up in any of the ST related material i read in likes of RetroGamer Magazine...despite having a supposed US Historian onboard...
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