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#61 Jop

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Posted 15 November 2017 - 12:32 PM

;)  TRY TO REMEMBER FOLKS THIS IS NOT REALLY "ATARI" IT IS SIMPLY A NAME / LICENSE / IP acquired by people looking to bank our love and nostalgia for the original company. Some, actually many people always seem to want to believe that it is something more, it really isn't.

 

Wait. I thought Infogrames made this? It definitely looks like a real Atari product to me.



#62 Clint Thompson

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Posted 15 November 2017 - 12:37 PM

In the sense that they just slapped the Atari logo on it and call it their own. There's nothing in-house or Atari about this other than the logo and someone else seeing dollar signs. That is and always will be the problem with these sort of things, the motivation comes from the wrong angle altogether. Just a few years ago Atari vowed to never enter the hardware market, yet... here we are.

 

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Posted 15 November 2017 - 01:36 PM

Wait. I thought Infogrames made this? It definitely looks like a real Atari product to me.

 

It is a real Atari product, but made by another company for Atari. 

This is not a new practice. GCC made the 7800 for Atari and the Lynx was originally made by EPYX.

However, that being said, the guy heading up the Atari Box does not scream the same quality as GCC or EPYX.


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Posted 15 November 2017 - 02:33 PM

Same with the Jaguar from Flare II but all of that was largely backed by Atari and had everyone behind it all, it was a huge involvement and their primary focus, all in.


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Posted 15 November 2017 - 04:17 PM

Same with the Jaguar from Flare II but all of that was largely backed by Atari and had everyone behind it all, it was a huge involvement and their primary focus, all in.

 

I'm not sure I understand the big difference. Current Atari is behind this project too. Yes it is smaller scale, but the current Atari is a smaller company. Perhaps they aren't betting the farm on it, but that shouldn't be a surprise given there current history as a company that had to emerge from bankruptcy and is trying to stay profitable. As they got out of bankruptcy, they even stated they were going to try to be smarter in how the Atari name is used (Meaning, they weren't just going to hand it on to just anyone who wanted to license it).


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Posted 15 November 2017 - 05:16 PM

Btw, I need to correct myself. Another company is not making the Atari Box. Fergal Mac is the general manager of the project which apparently is being developed in house.

BTW #2: Even though I was a bit interested in the Atari Box when they teased it, I am no longer interested due to the current high price point. So I am not trying to promote it. I just don't understand why it's being said that this isn't a "real" Atari system.
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#67 Jop

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Posted 16 November 2017 - 12:03 PM

Just a few years ago Atari vowed to never enter the hardware market, yet... here we are.

 

It's a PC in a console case. It's not custom hardware.

 

BTW #2: Even though I was a bit interested in the Atari Box when they teased it, I am no longer interested due to the current high price point. So I am not trying to promote it. I just don't understand why it's being said that this isn't a "real" Atari system.

 

I'm not interested in it because of the price either, though I do understand why it's so expensive. It's going to use an AMD APU, which is also what the PlayStation 4 and Xbox One have. And unlike those, the Ataribox will let you access the underlying PC system, so even if you no longer care about the games, you can still use it as a desktop computer. $300 for that plus all the preinstalled games is completely fair IMO.


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Posted 16 November 2017 - 01:12 PM

...hardware is hardware, off the shelf or not, but I suppose that is left open for interpretation. Also, the fact that it's not custom hardware is kind of another key point but probably left best not to bother discussing since everyone is defensive on the subject it seems.

 

Unlike the PS4 and Xbox One, the AMD APU leaves a lot of questions since there are still no technical specifications outside of that alone. You can get an AMD APU for $50. And unlike Sony and MS, they're leaving the majority of games from homebrew/indie scene and PC compatible games that pre-exist from what I understand. If Minecraft is their AAA title, they've got a rough road ahead to put it lightly.

 

I'm not sure what's considered fair anymore since you can get a laptop from WalMart for $249 that could connect to a TV and is also an AMD CPU with built-in graphics, probably cheaper actually. You seem to know more than what everyone else does in regards to pre-installed games though. I know they mentioned it but do you know what it's coming pre-installed with other than a customized free OS and obviously some form of Atari collection that can be obtained by about 30 other devices costing a fraction of this?


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Posted 21 November 2017 - 01:45 PM

Ataribox JUST shared this message and images in their Facebook page................hahahahhaha  :rofl:
 
We were going to wait for launch to show you the Ataribox Joystick, but we like it way too much to wait. What do you think?
 
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Posted 21 November 2017 - 07:18 PM

I think it plays homage to the original joystick but what will the mass market think?


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Posted 06 December 2017 - 06:56 PM

The joystick looks too limited for a modern machine. I think that they are really going to be in trouble here, especially with the stupid Atari Box crowdfunding idea. Why pay twice for an Atari Box? If you crowd-fund it and then buy it that is essentially what you are doing! It's really a dumb ploy. It has "scam" written all over it. Atari will get rich, and we will get an under-powered game system slapped all together with shoddy parts. I wonder if it will make it into the stores at this rate. It's just all wrong.

 

They could have still made a retro joystick, but with more features and still make it similar to an A2600 controller. They made it too simple for our times. Unfortunately…


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#72 atarilbc

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Posted 11 December 2017 - 10:47 AM

From Atari:

"It's Time!
Ataribox will be available for pre-order on December 14th, 2017.

You'll be the first to know before pre-orders go live.
Our team would like to offer our earliest supporters a chance to grab Ataribox at an exclusive discount, so keep an eye on that inbox.

These deals will be extremely limited. We'll tell you everything you need to know to get the best deal soon."

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Posted 11 December 2017 - 01:30 PM

I think it's kind of dirty to ask for pre-orders in the tune of $300 several weeks prior to Christmas or whatever holiday people choose to celebrate. Assuming the word pre-order does in fact require the whole down payment of their projected price range.


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Posted 11 December 2017 - 01:43 PM

Expensive Pre-Order on IndiGOGO? And NO other info or specs? Sorry this seems fishy as hell imho.  


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Posted 11 December 2017 - 03:53 PM

They better post good details of what this thing will do so people can become interested.  Right now I see little to catch my eye.


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Posted 14 December 2017 - 02:26 PM

Woo Hoo today is the big day we get those Pre-Order deta.......................oh wait......   :rofl: 

 

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AKA - WE NEED MORE TIME TO COME UP WITH A CONVINCING SCAM ! 


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Posted 14 December 2017 - 04:41 PM

I am going to go out on a limb and risk having to eat crow and paste here what I posted elsewhere regarding this fiasco - 

 

I would love to say people like us do not fall for such things but many are collectors that simply refuse to see an obvious scam for what it is, the same people enticed in the past by the Coleco Chameleon scam, it was the same process of level headed fans and collectors calling it out pretty early on but even as the proof emerged waves of so called Coleco fans refused to remove the nostalgia goggles and relentlessly defended it until the inevitable clear failure. 

 

Even then many of them turned around to say WE killed it with comments and negativity lol. Yeah, some will believe anything by anyone and are willing to part with money as long as it has the name / logo and marketing hype attached. They simply do not want to accept that it is being marketed by a man known for shoddy products and questionable background who simply acquired the name from the current owners. 
 
They prefer to believe in unicorns and leprechauns and a new Atari that will bring balance to gaming once again....or some nonsense.  This has already crossed the line where you cannot just say "Well I prefer to wait and see" or simply "I am an optimist", no you just refuse to see the obvious signs for what it is or even make the proper deduction based on past history of similar schemes.  This is why we see these types of things repeated over and over.
 
Name a crowd funded console that successfully launched? Someone else I know made this comment, it was the Ouya and that was pretty much a failure within a year. 

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Posted 14 December 2017 - 09:07 PM

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Posted 15 December 2017 - 01:16 PM

who simply acquired the name from the current owners.

 

For some reason it keeps being alleged that this thing is made by a company unrelated to Atari that got their hands on the trademark and wants to milk it, like the "Commodore Android phone". Where is this company? Can you point to this mysterious third party? Unless I'm out of the loop, the Atari trademark still solely belongs to Infrogrames. So unless you think that "Infogrames is not Atari" (which would be wrong), I have no idea how this allegation is supposed to make sense.



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Posted 15 December 2017 - 02:58 PM

For some reason it keeps being alleged that this thing is made by a company unrelated to Atari that got their hands on the trademark and wants to milk it, like the "Commodore Android phone". Where is this company? Can you point to this mysterious third party? Unless I'm out of the loop, the Atari trademark still solely belongs to Infrogrames. So unless you think that "Infogrames is not Atari" (which would be wrong), I have no idea how this allegation is supposed to make sense.

Infogrames is not "making" this ;)  Mysterious 3rd party? Nothing mysterious about it. The man behind ATARIBOX is Feargal Mac, he is literally in charge and he is known for shoddy products and past crowd funding failures. He acquired the rights to make this project and use the Atari brand. There are extended discussions about it on several forums, sites, videos etc. The info is easily found for anyone making simple search efforts. Just one quick example of one of the first things found googling Feargal Mac Ataribox -

 

https://csanyk.com/2...te-feargal-mac/


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