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Hyperkin - Retron 77. HD Atari 2600?


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#1 Atari Today

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Posted 10 June 2017 - 06:02 PM

Uhh..dudes? Looks like there is an HD offering from Hyperkin that will potentially be announced during E3.  

Some folks were doing some super sleuthing in regards to the teaser trailer released for "Ataribox" and while they didn't find further details in regards to that, they did stumble across the following on the E3 exhibitor details site.  This week could get interesting in regards to Atari announcements..for better or worse.

 

http://mp037jm24.map...?ExhID=vKfzxkpC RetroN 77 Retro Gaming Console

 

The RetroN 77 plays all your favorite 2600 cartridges in beautiful 1080p HD. It's one happenin' pixel party for the senses. Marvel at the slick wood paneling; the on-board game and difficulty select; and the included premium joystick - perfect for all you one-button warriors. Can. You. Dig. It? 

 

 

 

-My thoughts on Hyperkin very.  I own the Retron 5 and while it I've had fun with it I admit that the build quality isn't exactly top notch.  My SNES first controller port has crapped out (along with the cheap wireless controller the system came with) and I can no longer go left.  I now use a sega genesis controller with my system.  My friends Retron 5 system has completely bitten the dust after getting close to two years out of it.

 

Some random questions include:  Will this be emulation based?  If it is emulation based will there be lag?  Will it support paddle, racing, keypad, controllers? 


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Posted 10 June 2017 - 06:09 PM

I am just hoping if it plays original carts it fully supports my HARMONY CART. IF NOT meh, I have enough 2600 compatible consoles and modded systems to support my 2600 games. 


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Posted 10 June 2017 - 06:17 PM

I've yet to jump into purchasing a Harmony Cart.  It would probably save me lots of space (and money?) in regards to my collection..but i love me some Atari manuals and boxes.  My family is probably planning an intervention in the near future.  ;)

 

If this is emulation based I'm afraid you won't be able to use your Harmony Cart.  The Retron 5 didn't support multi-carts or even random bootlegs from back in the day.

 

I want to support Hyperkin jumping into making an HD Atari..but I can't help with be super skeptical at this point.  Fingers crossed they prove me wrong


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Posted 10 June 2017 - 07:13 PM

I am just hoping if it plays original carts it fully supports my HARMONY CART. IF NOT meh, I have enough 2600 compatible consoles and modded systems to support my 2600 games.


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Posted 10 June 2017 - 09:01 PM

I'm with MaximumRD!


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Posted 10 June 2017 - 09:33 PM

I've yet to jump into purchasing a Harmony Cart.  It would probably save me lots of space (and money?) in regards to my collection..but i love me some Atari manuals and boxes.  My family is probably planning an intervention in the near future.  ;)

 

If this is emulation based I'm afraid you won't be able to use your Harmony Cart.  The Retron 5 didn't support multi-carts or even random bootlegs from back in the day.

 

I want to support Hyperkin jumping into making an HD Atari..but I can't help with be super skeptical at this point.  Fingers crossed they prove me wrong

Yes that is what I fear, that it will work in the same manner as the Retron5 literally dumping cart content to a ROM for it's own emulator use. I suspect that will be the case. I also thought the Retron 3 which I have is junk in build quality though it DOES support flashcarts. I went for the RetroBit SuperRetroTrio though instead of the Retron5 because that not only plays nicely with all my Everdrives (Snes / Nes / Genesis) built is pretty good in the compatibility and even comes with a pretty nice stock controller. 


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Posted 10 June 2017 - 11:32 PM

I'll have to get an HDTV first. I guess they're catching on. :)


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Posted 10 June 2017 - 11:54 PM

I've yet to jump into purchasing a Harmony Cart.  It would probably save me lots of space (and money?) in regards to my collection..but i love me some Atari manuals and boxes.  My family is probably planning an intervention in the near future.  ;)

 

Oh, I'm all about the actual carts, too, but man, that Harmony is a wonderful thing. Great for playing works-in-progress, unreleased games, and games that I just plain don't have but want to play for friendly competition. Also, if I want to bring some games to an Atari party -- which has happened, by the dubs -- I can just load 'em up on an SD card rather than have to toss my stuff in a box and toss said box in the car.


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Posted 11 June 2017 - 01:27 PM

I read that Hyperkin is working on a system called the RetroN77. A system to play 2600 games (hopefully 7800 too) for modern setups.

 

This is cool, I BEGGED them many times to do so. Even made a video about it. 

 

This is too cool, what a fantastic week for Atari lovers!!!!!


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Posted 11 June 2017 - 02:56 PM

As MaximumRD stated....if it can run a Harmony cart...I'm interested.  If not...no thanks. 

I personally have a Retron 3 (which I bought used) and it's been really good for me.  The build quality isn't the best.  But I love that it uses real controllers for each system.  For the NES carts, I have to use a little folded piece of paper to keep the cart angled right in the slot to get it to work.  No big deal to me.  I love how much space it saves -- not to mention the huge reduction in wiring (both power and AV).  Plus it's red...my favorite color. 

 

So I'll call myself interested...but waiting to know more details. 


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Posted 11 June 2017 - 03:15 PM

Personally think they would be doing a disservice to themselves if they do not take the extra steps in including the 7800 on this thing. I'm interested either way just for the idea of it. Love for the pre 8 bit stuff finally. Now we just need to make a RetroN 5 like system with Coleco and Intellivision too. Maybe 8-bit computer jazz too!!!! 


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Posted 11 June 2017 - 03:42 PM

Personally think they would be doing a disservice to themselves if they do not take the extra steps in including the 7800 on this thing. I'm interested either way just for the idea of it. Love for the pre 8 bit stuff finally. Now we just need to make a RetroN 5 like system with Coleco and Intellivision too. Maybe 8-bit computer jazz too!!!!


In my opinion the 7800 is the untapped pinnacle of Atari 8-bit awesomeness. For 1984 it was amazing and even when compared to early NES there are a number of ways in which the 7800 performs very well. Unfortunately I don't see that the 7800 ever reached its full potential. Nintendo continued to develop the NES and push the envelope of what it could do, meanwhile Atari Corp. was aggressive about cost-saving measures, i.e. no POKEY, no new chips, no new accessories, etc. The 7800 was left to compete for shelf space with the XE, 2600, and Lynx before facing the real competition from Nintendo, Sega and others. I would love to see the new Retron include 7800 compatibility and hopefully jumpstart a new frontier of 7800 homebrew developers. Not to do so I believe would be a mistake.
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Posted 12 June 2017 - 07:10 AM

Oh, I'm all about the actual carts, too, but man, that Harmony is a wonderful thing. Great for playing works-in-progress, unreleased games, and games that I just plain don't have but want to play for friendly competition. Also, if I want to bring some games to an Atari party -- which has happened, by the dubs -- I can just load 'em up on an SD card rather than have to toss my stuff in a box and toss said box in the car.

I quickly went from pondering my next big purchase from being a maybe this Retron 77 system thing to a definite must purchase on the Harmony cart.  I didn't even consider the possibilities of playing work in progress games and unreleased prototypes! :thumb: 

While i don't own one I now understand why it would suck if this new system doesn't support it.


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Posted 12 June 2017 - 09:25 AM

Yes that is what I fear, that it will work in the same manner as the Retron5 literally dumping cart content to a ROM for it's own emulator use. I suspect that will be the case. I also thought the Retron 3 which I have is junk in build quality though it DOES support flashcarts. I went for the RetroBit SuperRetroTrio though instead of the Retron5 because that not only plays nicely with all my Everdrives (Snes / Nes / Genesis) built is pretty good in the compatibility and even comes with a pretty nice stock controller. 

 

I haven't heard any rumors that this will be emulation based, but there's very little info out period. I'm hoping they follow the model of the Retron 1 HD; it doesn't use emulation, but they do use a NOAC with an upscaler for HDMI output. Not ideal, but better than nothing I guess. The Retron 1 HD also has AV ports, so if you don't have an HDTV and want to use it you still can. 

 

My guess is if this is a solo cart product it will be some sort of Atari on a chip scenario similar to the Retron 1 HD. I can't see them going the emulation route to play carts from one system on a console.



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Posted 13 June 2017 - 05:36 PM

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Posted 13 June 2017 - 07:12 PM

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Posted 13 June 2017 - 07:15 PM

Hmm... I don't see difficulty switches or the color/B&W switch, which are need for some games. I wonder if there is some sort of in game menu you can access to get to those.  

 

Also, they put Pac-Man in backwards....or the cartridge slot backwards....


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Posted 13 June 2017 - 08:39 PM

OK some of you have posted the pics floating around, screw it I will add all mine again lol, Posted by Dr. Manhattan on Atariage, yes some images are duplicated but it seems he has been sourcing some info as well which I will include here. The case looks a bit rough but keep in mind it was a demo unit thrown together for E3. Honestly, if the look remains but smoothed out that is fine and also hopefully the info so far is very promising imho, for the price and the features will certainly be worth considering and buying may encourage more such devices for us classic gaming enthusiast. It certainly seems like something we have been clamoring for. 

 

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Estimated $40 price point.
Should work with Harmony cart. 
No release date yet.
 
Currently does work with Harmony cart. This will remain pending legal dept approval. 
 
Has 4x3 and 16x9 modes. Has color & b/w modes
 
Built around Stella emulator 
 
Will work with track balls, 3rd party controllers, etc. 
 
The USB port is for power. Considering making it open source based on what they've seen from the Atari community. No save states yet. Hardware is very early. Input lag doesn't seem to be a problem. Had a very good run in both Atari Pac-Man and Missile Command. For an early prototype it's a very impressive product. 

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Posted 13 June 2017 - 10:08 PM

This is a must-buy!


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Posted 14 June 2017 - 01:19 AM

Looking at the back, I guess that means it is HDMI only? I don't have one so I'm not sure. Missing the physical switches will affect some games like Phil said. I guess it will work with a Harmony cart, that is good news. The price point is incredible. As long as they don't find a SNES inside later on, this should be a great thing for the community. Except for cart prices going up. :)


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