RickR Posted June 6, 2018 Report Share Posted June 6, 2018 Who remembers the good old days of building your own PC? There were some really great web sites like Anandtech and Tom's Hardware that would review and compare the latest CPU's, motherboards, video cards, etc, and also fascinating topics like overclocking. I remember carefully picking each component for my own build and then running benchmarks to compare with my buds. Who's up for running a similar benchmark on their current PC? Go here: www.userbenchmark.comClick on the "free download" link and run the benchmark file. Then post your results here.Here are mine: UserBenchmarks: Game 36%, Desk 84%, Work 61%CPU: Intel Core i7-4790K - 90.7%GPU: Nvidia GTX 660 - 29.8%SSD: Intel 540s Series 1TB - 93.2%HDD: WD Blue 750GB (2008) - 50.6%RAM: Corsair Vengeance DDR3 1600 C10 4x8GB - 61%MBD: MSI Z97 GUARD-PRO (MS-7923) MaximumRD 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaximumRD Posted June 6, 2018 Report Share Posted June 6, 2018 UserBenchmarks: Game 67%, Desk 62%, Work 52% CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 1500X - 67.2% GPU: Nvidia GTX 1060-6GB - 72.3% SSD: WD Green 120GB (2016) - 47.4% HDD: Toshiba DT01ACA300 3TB - 97.6% HDD: Seagate Barracuda 3TB (2016) - 103.3% RAM: Unknown V02D4LF8GB5285282400 2x8GB - 85.7% MBD: Asus PRIME B350M-A After adjusting some BIOS and Power plan Settings (I was initially disappointed with CPU results, I still plan to do some tweaking in hopes of getting SSD improvements) UserBenchmarks: Game 69%, Desk 68%, Work 56% CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 1500X - 76.3% GPU: Nvidia GTX 1060-6GB - 72.9% SSD: WD Green 120GB (2016) - 45.6% HDD: Toshiba DT01ACA300 3TB - 99.7% HDD: Seagate Barracuda 3TB (2016) - 105.2% RAM: Unknown V02D4LF8GB5285282400 2x8GB - 86.1% MBD: Asus PRIME B350M-A RickR 1 Quote I am Rob aka MaximumRD aka OldSchoolRetroGamer and THIS is my world http://about.me/maximumrd "For you, the day Bison graced your village was the most important day of your life. But for me, it was Tuesday." - M. Bison Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clint Thompson Posted June 27, 2018 Report Share Posted June 27, 2018 When I was building, websites didn't exist lol ;-) but this thread fondly made me remember the 3D floating computer program that would calculate how fast your PC was in terms of 3D FPS (before dedicated video cards of that nature really existed) and last time I ran it on a more modern PC sometime early 2000 it was like 1,100 frames a second haha... Anyone remember the flying 3D bird overhead that was made up of only pixel pointers? Interesting times and tech and how it all evolves. MaximumRD 1 Quote 7800 - 130XE - XEGS - Lynx - Jaguar - ISO: Atari Falcon030 | STBook |STe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrossBow Posted June 29, 2018 Report Share Posted June 29, 2018 When I was building, websites didn't exist lol ;-) but this thread fondly made me remember the 3D floating computer program that would calculate how fast your PC was in terms of 3D FPS (before dedicated video cards of that nature really existed) and last time I ran it on a more modern PC sometime early 2000 it was like 1,100 frames a second haha... https://www.philscomputerlab.com/dos-benchmark-pack.html Although according to this link, the second and last version of that benchmark made only went to 999.99... But I believe that is the one you are talking about. As for the 3D bird I remember one made of just dots that was overhead and was kinda like a screensaver of sorts with the occasional tree going by or something? Clint Thompson and MaximumRD 2 Quote See what I'm up to over at the Ivory Tower Collections: http://www.youtube.com/ivorytowercollections Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clint Thompson Posted July 18, 2018 Report Share Posted July 18, 2018 https://www.philscomputerlab.com/dos-benchmark-pack.html Although according to this link, the second and last version of that benchmark made only went to 999.99... But I believe that is the one you are talking about. As for the 3D bird I remember one made of just dots that was overhead and was kinda like a screensaver of sorts with the occasional tree going by or something? Yep, that was it! Virtual Reality playhouse and yep, you're thinking of the exact one I am. Good times.. =) MaximumRD 1 Quote 7800 - 130XE - XEGS - Lynx - Jaguar - ISO: Atari Falcon030 | STBook |STe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atari 5200 Guy Posted December 24, 2018 Report Share Posted December 24, 2018 All of mine would most likely be sub par. I remember my old 386 back in the day getting good results after lots of upgrades. The machines I have now are pretty basic, not much for gaming. One desktop is an old Dell running XP. It does have a GeForce graphics card installed but is strictly used for Atari ST stuff. I don't even let it get online. The second computer is a Dell Inspiron from 2008 running Vista. Graphics card has been upgraded but it need a RAM upgrade. 2 GB doesn't do a whole lot. Its fixing to get a Windows 7 upgrade to break the 4 GB barrier, hopefully. Third computer is a Thinkpad laptop originally running Vista but memory and hard drive have been upgraded. Sadly, it has Intel's attempt at a graphics GPU which is not good for much of anything. It has been upgraded with Win 7. I'll download and run that benchmark test on the laptop. My final computer is actually a server running Linux. But I can't use it to play video games on I don't think. Plus, its simply too damn noisy to run. Sounds like a jet airplane. Pretty sure it would win the RAM and CPU benchmarks but that would be about it. Everything else would be pretty basic. Dual AMD processors and 12 GB of main RAM. It also has extra video RAM. Its pretty nice. Wouldn't mind using it for gaming but Windows 7 returned an error because it wouldn't install on a dual processor system. Stubborn OS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickR Posted December 24, 2018 Author Report Share Posted December 24, 2018 I have an old laptop that works with Win 7 just fine, but Windows 10 can't find proper video drivers. So I've left that one on Win 7. Absolutely zero of my PC's -- even my main rig -- do very well on the "gaming" part of this benchmark. I think the highest score I've seen there is 30%. Still, you can clearly see differences in scores due to different components. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaximumRD Posted February 23, 2019 Report Share Posted February 23, 2019 Latest recently re-testing my main Desktop. UserBenchmarks: Game 70%, Desk 74%, Work 57% CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 1500X - 75.9% GPU: Nvidia GTX 1060-6GB - 72.4% SSD: Adata XPG SX900 128GB - 77.1% HDD: Seagate Barracuda 3TB (2016) - 112.6% HDD: Toshiba DT01ACA300 3TB - 89.2% RAM: Unknown V02D4LF8GB5285282400 2x8GB - 86.6% MBD: Asus PRIME B350M-A RickR 1 Quote I am Rob aka MaximumRD aka OldSchoolRetroGamer and THIS is my world http://about.me/maximumrd "For you, the day Bison graced your village was the most important day of your life. But for me, it was Tuesday." - M. Bison Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickR Posted August 4, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 4, 2019 I just got a new desktop! Here are my results before adding a video card (using Intel integrated right now): UserBenchmarks: Game 20%, Desk 87%, Work 54% CPU: Intel Core i7-7700K - 88.8% GPU: Intel HD 630 (Desktop Kaby Lake) - 10% SSD: Intel 600p Series NVMe PCIe M.2 512GB - 118.3% HDD: WD Green 1TB (2009) - 54.6% RAM: Kingston HyperX DDR4 2400 C12 4x8GB - 75.9% MBD: Asus STRIX H270F GAMING Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickR Posted August 5, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 5, 2019 Updated results after adding an old video card: UserBenchmarks: Game 37%, Desk 92%, Work 57% CPU: Intel Core i7-7700K - 91.2% GPU: Nvidia GTX 660 - 29.4% SSD: Intel 600p Series NVMe PCIe M.2 512GB - 130.9% HDD: WD Green 1TB (2009) - 52.3% RAM: Kingston HyperX DDR4 2400 C12 4x8GB - 76.1% MBD: Asus STRIX H270F GAMING Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrossBow Posted August 5, 2019 Report Share Posted August 5, 2019 Realized I never posted my results in this thread. Do keep in mind that my PC was originally put together back in 2012. The CPU, RAM, and Motherboard are all over 7 years old at this point. Not sure why the MBD: isn't showing but my mother board is an old Intel DBZ68BC gaming board. UserBenchmarks: Game 90%, Desk 60%, Work 37% CPU: Intel Core i5-2500K - 69.5% GPU: Nvidia GTX 1070 - 109.8% SSD: Intel 320 Series 120GB - 45% SSD: Marvell Raid VD 0 2TB - 48.6% HDD: WD Black 1TB (2013) - 178.1% RAM: Kingston HyperX DDR3 1600 C9 4x4GB - 59.6% MBD: bin bin Overall I've been very happy with this build and the main component have served me better than any other PC I've pieced together since the mid 90s. But, as you can see from the specs of this thing, it is getting very long in the tooth and it is time to think about a new motherboard, ram, and CPU at minimum. Quote See what I'm up to over at the Ivory Tower Collections: http://www.youtube.com/ivorytowercollections Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickR Posted August 6, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 6, 2019 (edited) What? No, man. I think you're computer is fine. It looks like a nice balance of gaming performance. Moore's Law died several years ago. The only reason I upgraded is that my old PC was overheating, and nothing I tried could fix it. New thermal paste, new heatsink/fan. I upgraded very reluctantly. I kept my old video card because I have no problems running the games I play with it. Saved a few bucks that way. Edited August 6, 2019 by RickR MaximumRD 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaximumRD Posted August 6, 2019 Report Share Posted August 6, 2019 Nothing changed hardware or spec wise, I like running the test since this is the best main desktop I have ever had or am likely to ever again, I also like to just make sure I am maintaining it and running well. 🍻 I cannot really cannot account for the slight dip in numbers? Might be interesting to try every so often and see how results vary even with little or no change in specs. Previous test back in February: UserBenchmarks: Game 70%, Desk 74%, Work 57% CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 1500X - 75.9% GPU: Nvidia GTX 1060-6GB - 72.4% SSD: Adata XPG SX900 128GB - 77.1% HDD: Seagate Barracuda 3TB (2016) - 112.6% HDD: Toshiba DT01ACA300 3TB - 89.2% RAM: Unknown V02D4LF8GB5285282400 2x8GB - 86.6% MBD: Asus PRIME B350M-A Current results as of a few minutes ago: UserBenchmarks: Game 68%, Desk 67%, Work 46% CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 1500X - 68% GPU: Nvidia GTX 1060-6GB - 72.6% SSD: Adata XPG SX900 128GB - 74.6% HDD: Seagate Barracuda 3TB (2016) - 111.4% HDD: Toshiba DT01ACA300 3TB - 93.3% RAM: Unknown V02D4LF8GB5285282400 2x8GB - 84.7% MBD: Asus PRIME B350M-A 🤔😜 Quote I am Rob aka MaximumRD aka OldSchoolRetroGamer and THIS is my world http://about.me/maximumrd "For you, the day Bison graced your village was the most important day of your life. But for me, it was Tuesday." - M. Bison Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickR Posted August 6, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 6, 2019 (edited) It is possible that they "change the curve" so that the newest PC's don't exceed 100% on the main 3 values. That probably explains why your CPU went down a little. Edited August 6, 2019 by RickR MaximumRD 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickR Posted August 6, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 6, 2019 I will also say that upgrading to a new PC was a lot less painful that I thought it would be. I keep all my "data" on the D : drive (HDD) (pictures, music, etc). So my weekly backup of of the D drive and "My Documents" covered my 99%. Once I restored those, it just took a little time to re-install programs. The only issue I ran into is that I can't find my Office 2013 license key. So I'm just going to go with free OpenOffice instead. And it also reminded me of the humorous quote that's so true -- that the only purpose for Microsoft Edge is to download Chrome or Firefox. MaximumRD 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickR Posted August 12, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 12, 2019 Here we go. I got a used GPU from ebay that's a few steps above my old one. It was inexpensive, about $35 shipped. Pretty good bang for the buck for an old cheapo such as myself. UserBenchmarks: Game 51%, Desk 93%, Work 58% CPU: Intel Core i7-7700K - 93% GPU: AMD R9 285 - 45.7% SSD: Intel 600p Series NVMe PCIe M.2 512GB - 125.8% HDD: WD Green 1TB (2009) - 50.4% RAM: Kingston HyperX DDR4 2400 C12 4x8GB - 75.9% MBD: Asus STRIX H270F GAMING MaximumRD 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrossBow Posted August 13, 2019 Report Share Posted August 13, 2019 Well, while my current 7 year old rig can still play most modern games at high to ultra settings at 1440p, the real issue is how long it takes to edit and render videos. I have a 4k camera but my PC just cannot handle trying to edit large 4k video on the fly. Scrubbing the video is next to impossible and I end up having to put the preview windows at very low resolutions. That sucks because I sometimes cannot see something that might be off in the video because the resolution isn't clear enough to see if in the preview. Also, all effects such as the fades cause the CPU to hit 100% for a seconds making it impossible to view such effects in the preview in real time. Most of the stuff I do or edit into the video, I don't even get to really see until I render them. Also the video card is not on the list of components to be changes. I really only have to change out the mother board, CPU and RAM as the old case and pretty much everything else I have can still be used. But damn..just getting a nice high end i7 with a modern motherboard and 16gb of medium speed DDR4 RAM is basically a grand. Eventually I would like to get an all different and smaller case as my Antec 902 is beast along with an nvME SSD as a new boot drive in place of my aging Intel 320 series SSD I've been using for like 4+ years now? I currently have a 1050w Corsair PSU in my PC..yes...that is 1,050watts and I know that is still usable. But it too is 7 years old and not nearly as efficient as a newer 850w gold rated one would be these days. And if I were to basically build an all new PC, then my youngest can have this current one that would still be faster than his 2 year old gaming laptop he now uses. I know the newer AMD CPUs and chipsets seem to be wiping the floor with Intel these days, but I've never had very stable AMD setups in the past whereas all of my Intel based builds have been solid with this current one simply the best I've pieced together. MaximumRD 1 Quote See what I'm up to over at the Ivory Tower Collections: http://www.youtube.com/ivorytowercollections Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atari 5200 Guy Posted August 13, 2019 Report Share Posted August 13, 2019 A bit of computer theories I have learned over the decades of owning IBM clone PCs. The type and amount of RAM can bottleneck any gaming PC if there is not enough of it (8 GB recommended these days) and if it is not fast enough. It can really play hell with the motherboard's bus system. I've also noticed that the three types of motherboards made now (AMD, nVidia, or Intel chipsets) work better if paired with matching GPUs. AMD chipsets seem to work better with AMD graphics cards than with Intel or nVidia graphics cards. I've also learned that most Intel GPUs, no matter what their job tasks are suppose to be for, are not as good as AMD or nVidia brands. At least most of the ones I've had experiences with simply couldn't handle the load of games I've tried to play (Euro Trucking & American Trucking Simulators/Farming Simulator). I still recommend AMD/ATi or nVidia over Intel in the graphics department any day. Even a low class or older video card of those brands can make a difference and will allow those PCs to do some gaming. I use a Dell originally designed for Vista (still running Vista). It has only 2 GB of RAM but the video card has been upgraded with a more modern GPU with more RAM than the system has. Farming Simulator and Euro Trucking Simulator all play very well. Euro Trucking Simulator 2 requires 4 GB of RAM so it will not work although I can see the title and menus in the game. The first two Car Mechanic Simulators all work OK, the second one struggles a bit at the title screen but once the game is loaded it plays well. I have RAM I pulled from another gaming PC someone threw away where I live but it is DDR3 (16 GB Total) and I need DDR2. Bummer. I'll have to get that benchmark test and perform it on the Dell I use for gaming. I know the results are going to be varied because of the lack of RAM the system desperately needs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickR Posted August 13, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 13, 2019 Hey @kamakazi20012: I just checked my parts box. I have 2 1GB sticks of DDR2 and 2 2GB sticks of DDR2. If you think they'll work for you PM me. Available super cheap. I also have a whole bunch of 512Mb sticks, but I assume those are of no use to you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickR Posted August 13, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 13, 2019 1 hour ago, CrossBow said: Well, while my current 7 year old rig can still play most modern games at high to ultra settings at 1440p, the real issue is how long it takes to edit and render videos. I have a 4k camera but my PC just cannot handle trying to edit large 4k video on the fly. Scrubbing the video is next to impossible and I end up having to put the preview windows at very low resolutions. That sucks because I sometimes cannot see something that might be off in the video because the resolution isn't clear enough to see if in the preview. Also, all effects such as the fades cause the CPU to hit 100% for a seconds making it impossible to view such effects in the preview in real time. Most of the stuff I do or edit into the video, I don't even get to really see until I render them. Also the video card is not on the list of components to be changes. I really only have to change out the mother board, CPU and RAM as the old case and pretty much everything else I have can still be used. But damn..just getting a nice high end i7 with a modern motherboard and 16gb of medium speed DDR4 RAM is basically a grand. Eventually I would like to get an all different and smaller case as my Antec 902 is beast along with an nvME SSD as a new boot drive in place of my aging Intel 320 series SSD I've been using for like 4+ years now? I currently have a 1050w Corsair PSU in my PC..yes...that is 1,050watts and I know that is still usable. But it too is 7 years old and not nearly as efficient as a newer 850w gold rated one would be these days. And if I were to basically build an all new PC, then my youngest can have this current one that would still be faster than his 2 year old gaming laptop he now uses. I know the newer AMD CPUs and chipsets seem to be wiping the floor with Intel these days, but I've never had very stable AMD setups in the past whereas all of my Intel based builds have been solid with this current one simply the best I've pieced together. I got super lucky on mine. A friend upgraded to a new box and sold me his old one for cheap. Core i7 7700k, 32GB DDR4, Asus motherboard, the M2 SSD and nice case and power adapter. All I had to do was get a new heatsink/fan for the CPU. If you happen to have any friends that recently upgraded, it never hurts to ask about their old stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atari 5200 Guy Posted August 14, 2019 Report Share Posted August 14, 2019 Hi Guys! This is the model Dell I was talking about. https://www.cnet.com/products/dell-inspiron-530-desktop-computer-intel-core-2-quad-q6600-500gb-hdd-4gb/ The only difference is mine has a Celeron (I miss having AMD processors!) and only 2 GB of RAM. Everything else is the same. The graphics card I installed in her is this one: https://www.zotac.com/lk/product/graphics_card/geforce-210-synergy-edition-0 And I stand corrected. This graphics card only has 1 GB of RAM. It's my older Dell Inspiron 8200 I have strictly for working with ST stuff offline that has a nVidia card with a bit more memory than the system. But it runs XP and is used only for Atari ST disk archiving/creating. I don't do anything else with it so it's not fired up often. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrossBow Posted August 22, 2019 Report Share Posted August 22, 2019 (edited) Well..I took the plunge about a week ago and bought quite a few new components for my new PC home workstation/server/gaming setup. Just ran the user benchmark and these are scores... UserBenchmarks: Game 96%, Desk 152%, Work 129% CPU: Intel Core i7-9700K - 105.1% GPU: Nvidia GTX 1070 - 84.2% SSD: Samsung 970 Evo Plus NVMe PCIe M.2 250GB - 283.6% SSD: Intel Raid 0 Volume 2TB - 177.7% HDD: Intel Raid 0 Volume 2TB - 195.1% RAM: Corsair CMW16GX4M2Z3600C18 2x8GB - 111% MBD: MSI MPG Z390 GAMING PRO CARBON AC (MS-7B17) So I should be good to go for awhile and ready for Cyberpunk 2077 next year! Edited August 23, 2019 by CrossBow RickR and MaximumRD 2 Quote See what I'm up to over at the Ivory Tower Collections: http://www.youtube.com/ivorytowercollections Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atari 5200 Guy Posted December 14, 2019 Report Share Posted December 14, 2019 On 8/6/2019 at 8:36 AM, RickR said: I will also say that upgrading to a new PC was a lot less painful that I thought it would be. I keep all my "data" on the D : drive (HDD) (pictures, music, etc). So my weekly backup of of the D drive and "My Documents" covered my 99%. Once I restored those, it just took a little time to re-install programs. The only issue I ran into is that I can't find my Office 2013 license key. So I'm just going to go with free OpenOffice instead. And it also reminded me of the humorous quote that's so true -- that the only purpose for Microsoft Edge is to download Chrome or Firefox. I'm a little late but have you heard of LibreOffice? It's free. I used it in college. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickR Posted December 14, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 14, 2019 7 hours ago, kamakazi20012 said: I'm a little late but have you heard of LibreOffice? It's free. I used it in college. Yes! I'm not sure if they still make LibreOffice, but I use "OpenOffice" now. I think it's the same code base as Libre, only still supported. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atari 5200 Guy Posted December 14, 2019 Report Share Posted December 14, 2019 LibreOffice is still going strong and very well supported. https://www.libreoffice.org/ It's another great alternative to MS Office and feature rich! RickR 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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