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3 hours ago, sramirez2008 said:
I ordered a 2nd AtariVox so I can dedicate it to the Vectrex. I don’t want to have to flip those dip switches too many times. They seem fragile. I’d rather set them once and forget it.
I basically did the same thing but it was due to small issues with the earlier Avox+ units vs not wanting to flip the switches. I modified the earlier one to correct for the issue and that made it Atari only at that point so the newer one I bought about 2 years back is to be used more for my Vectrex.
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10 hours ago, TrekMD said:
Thanks. I'll have to watch for the extension cords. I have the frames already. 🙂 I sent him a message to see if makes the cables available again.
I ended up just using a Genesis extension cable that I trimmed the end of it so that it would fit into the ports. This way, I can use it with my Vectrex and my 7800 equally with the Avox+
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18 hours ago, socrates63 said:
That's a big bummer for me. I also just want to leave it on to play on it own. I've been thinking of getting this out of curiosity and novelty of concept. I know music album cartridges are out there but I never tried one.
Thanks for the sharing the sound clip.
Well, it isn't the first time his albums have worked that way. But even his gameboy music album he released several years ago I believe auto transitions to the next song. But, his CD based TG-16 album he released last year I think it was? I believe it does the same thing where it just stays on the same song until you use your controller to move it to the next track. His last Genesis cartridge release titled as 'Decoder' is the same way, but it makes since there because you are reading a graphic novel along the way so the music tracks change as you change the scene reading the story.
BTW...the above video was captured directly off my Jaguar through RGB. But as my capture device doesn't like anything above 2x scaling from the OSSC, it doesn't look quite as good or sharp as it normally can when I'm able to use 5x normally. But this is pretty typical of all of my RGB consoles. This is why my s-video output systems tend to look sharper to my eyes, because those go through the extron and are output at 480P. That in turn at 2x scaling means the output is 960P to my TV while the 240P stuff via RGB is only at 480P on the final output.
- Justin, socrates63 and RickR
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This finally arrived from Hamburg Germany in the mail yesterday! I really enjoy these niche music album on cartridge formats and have most of Remute's releases from the past. But this is the first time he released something for an Atari system so I had to get it.
And for those curious, there is a brief 1 min video of the cartridge in action.
My only very minor complaint about this particular release, is that the audio seems a tad lower quality as compared to what I've heard a Jaguar able to do. Tempest 2k is a prime example of this. And the fact that the songs do not change over to the next track automatically. Whichever song you choose to start playing, just auto loops as many Amiga like module files did back in the day. So as a result to listen to something else, you have to go back to the playlist menu and then choose another song. Although, you can also hot select a song from the keypad directly if you know what the track# is you want to play. Still, it would have been nice if it did go onto the next song on its own so the cart could be inserted and just left to play in the background.
- socrates63, TrekMD, MaximumRD and 2 others
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1 hour ago, socrates63 said:
I never expected to add Vectrex releases from the 80s to my collection, but I did just that 🙂 Before adding these, I only had three, and everything else in my Vectrex collection were homebrews. I also picked up three cartridges by Binary Star.
That is awesome! I have a few of those games, but many of mine are loose carts only. Although I did recently pick up a nicer condition CIB of Clean Sweep so I guess I have another one to add to my trade and for sale pile now. Vectrex games are really fun to play and the conversions done for it still feel like they have that arcade quality to them. Even on the games that weren't originally vector based. Narzod is the newest game I was able to pick up for my Veccy collection a few months back.
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2 hours ago, TrekMD said:
Well, I remember saying that I'd expect someone to do this and here it is: Playable Lego Atari 2600 Console - Kickstarter
Hmmm... I'm pretty sure what they are showing is just the 2600+ main logic rockchip board that they have stuck into that section. So I'm guessing that is what they are doing is designing the same thing onto an even smaller PCB setup.
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1 hour ago, sramirez2008 said:
Every "Atari" Party we have includes the INTY II and ColecoVision with the System Changer and Expansion Module #1. Both consoles remain unmodded and fortunately, both output a pretty good picture via RF.
Okay...was curious because the AV upgrades on the CV and Intelly similar to the VCS adapter on the 5200, will kill that functionality. On the Intelly and CV you can only use the 2600 adapters if you leave the RF modulators in place and if you want improved picture output with those modules, then you have to use a separate AV upgrade board that feeds off the RF signal in order to use them in that way. It is the one main caveat of most AV upgrades in these consoles. But then I'm of the opinion that it would be cheaper to get a dedicated 2600 for that use vs the add on modules that may or may not be completely compatible with everything.
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On 3/24/2024 at 11:07 AM, sramirez2008 said:
Another great episode! Please keep it up. Btw, here’s a picture of the Intellivision System Changer.
How often do you actually use that and your other models to play 2600 games on non Atari platforms? I only ask because most of the AV upgrades on these consoles negate the use of these add-on devices since none of them use the actual graphics and logic hardware inside their parent console.
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2 hours ago, TrekMD said:
The 7800 has plenty of potential. I am curious to see what Atari decides to do for it. If they are working with folks like Bob, we should be in for a feast!
Indeed! As long as they make physical carts I can play on my consoles and not keep them in the VCS only realm I'm totally on board.
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Interesting, I might give this watch later. I got one of these about 10 years ago that worked excellently but was missing most of the decals and the ones that were left were rough. The only decal that looked good was the one around the screen. Similarly, I cleaned it up, repaired a few suss solder points and purchased new decals and had it looking like brand new.
Then a few years ago, another one popped up in the AA marketplace that still had all the original labels on it but did have some actiplaque like appearance on them. However, I ended up trading in the one I restored for about $100 and bought the one that had the original decals even though they weren't nearly as bright etc. And I still have that one and even though I know it could look like new, it is more original to me vs the one I did restore. If that makes sense?
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12 minutes ago, sramirez2008 said:
+1 for Mystic Castle. I have a box and set of overlays for it too.
I got in too late to get that but I would have for sure! I was only able to guy the ROM for it from Mr. Moeller directly about 2 years back.
There is quite a lot on the Intellivision side of the scene that I don't have or found out about much too late to get physical versions of the games.
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Hmm... there are quite a few for me that fit this category. I would say Streets of Rage II and Gunstar heroes on the Genesis are games I always seem to fire up to play often.
On PC it would be Doom and the variants of it along with Wing Commander and Darwinia.
For Atari that is trickier... as that is all over the place for me. But at least on the 5200 I can say The Last Starfighter, Rescue on Fractalus for sure.
For the Intellivision it is Thunder Castle and Diner. (Although I do play my rom of Mystic Castle most these days)
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1 hour ago, RickR said:
Here we go, courtesy of our friends at AtariAge: https://forums.atariage.com/topic/228141-lto-flash-intellivision-flash-cartridge-information/?do=findComment&comment=3605144
There you go! As I said...same game but they changed the name to keep is under the radar I guess when they released the rom.
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1 hour ago, RickR said:
Same. What is the other name? I may already have it...
The ROM name on my LTO is 'Blue Bastard". But it is Smurfs for sure. I honestly can't remember how I got it or where I found it? It didn't come with my LTO and I'm pretty sure it was just one of the many roms I've got on my PC stored away from the past 20+ years.
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I like quite a few others had been waiting for this because our Everdrives weren't working. I own a ver. 2.5 TED cart and none of the other work arounds posted were working for that model. Additionally, info from Krikzz stated that it wasn't likely to ever be possible to make those mid version TurboED carts work.
Well, we don't have to mess with any of it anymore as a jailbreak has been posted in a github that replaces the current firmware on the A-DUO and allows the use of .pce and even PCE CD ISO images to work from the SDcard on the back of the A-DUO. Just have to place the files in the right folders on the SD card and then after loading in the new firmware, you will have a new Play Assets option. Selecting this will then show the list of games it finds on the SDcard. CD ISOs have to be in their own separate subfolder for each game while you can have a set of different .PCE files on the SDCard to read normal HuCard images from.
And yes, so far the Library still shows the screenshots for each game when you select them just like normal games provided you have that images fileset. Save States still aren't a thing yet and it is unknown if this jail break will be updated once Analogue officially releases new FW to support that. But in the meantime, if you like me, have a TED you can't use on your A-DUO this link solves that issue for the time being.
https://github.com/analoguejb/Analogue-Duo-JB
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27 minutes ago, 7800 Pro Gamer said:
Glad to see this and Double Dragon are working now!
Other than the ladders issue on DD for some odd reason still being a problem. It even happens in the A7800 emulator that is considered to be the best current 7800 emulator out there. So it is just something that I guess was never reported until recently.
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Lynda Carter all the way for me!
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2 hours ago, 7800 Pro Gamer said:
I wonder if this fixes the double dragon ladder glitch of doom...
I've not tested this newer experimental yet. Just haven't had the time. But I did notice that maybe the timer is just fast? I've playing DD through my BBpro on another 7800 I worked on, and was able to climb the ladders without issue. But the timer was still darn fast. I was mainly using the elbow punches to take out the enemies and still lost my first live on the first level due to the timer and I don't remember it being so quick before?
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Sometime back I designed a two PCB set to help with installing mini din connectors in my Intellivision service work. I had requests from others to provide these files so that the PCBs can be used by all that might want to use them. Here is a link to the PDF guide that details the assembly process for the PCBs for use in the Intellivision 2609 model consoles. These can also be used on the Super Pro System and INTV III consoles as they are designed for installing in place of the RF modulator to provide a no cut solution for AV upgrades.
Link to 2609 mount board assembly PDF guide
The advantage of these mount boards is that being a 2 part PCB means I can use the same bottom base PCB for both model 2609 and INTV II consoles. With only the top PCB portion being different. Here is an example install I did very recently showing one of the completely mount board setups in place in a 2609 Intellivision that received an RGB upgrade. Here I used a 9pin mini din for the RGB and audio, but also the 9pin allows for composite to be wired up. This means that any Sega Genesis/MD model 2 AV cable setup can be used.
And the mount board has room to allow for aligning the mini din connector to be as centered as much as is possible.
I've also attached the PDF to this post to make it easier. Links for the gerber files to have PCBs made up can be found within the PDF. I do plan to make something similar for the INTV II model consoles as those have their own mount board PCB setup but is similar to build and use as the one shown here.
I've also released a video on my YT channel going through the assembly process and use of the mount PCBs into an actual 2609 model console I recently finished up for a client. The lighting is horrible on this as I had the exposure set way to high, but didn't really noticed until the very end so I apologize for that. Still, it shows detailed enough on how to use these PCBs.
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36 minutes ago, RickR said:
Great info, thank you.
Do you happen to know of any reseller of 7800 cases (old stock or 3d printed)? I've got a 7800 in a very broken case. I was thinking of switching the power connector to a normal barrel plug, doing the uav mod, and homing it in a new case.I've added the link to the AA forums where Bob released his STL files for his 3D printable shell replacement for the 7800.
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There is a LOT of info regarding the Atari 7800 and UAV setups out there and I'm just as guilty as the next guy for not making it any easier to find this information. Well, I think enough is known at this point where I thought it might be a good idea for me to create a thread where I can place all of my UAV resources and knowledge in one place that can be found pretty easily. So this thread will contain the links to my UAV install guides and other resources I share.
Let's start with the PDF guides. There are two different guides depending on the install method you go with:
Here is the guide for the standard UAV 7800 installation using point to point wiring for all of the connections. This is a more complex way of installing a UAV, but allow for more freedom in placement of the UAV in your setup and was the main method used for many years.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/19GLfVgQDS6ZPKzZn4rjHAAaMT0nxgaed/view?usp=drive_link
Here is the link for the guide if you go with one of the ITC mount board setups. This is an easier installation method I feel and has a few other benefits as well with cleaned up chroma timing for better color alignment, composite artifact color adjustments, and replicated mixing for the audio already in place. The mount boards can be purchased through the Brewing Academy.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1og9jXxrFBnWkmiCOjuYaBaitgUb7waXZ/view?usp=drive_link
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I've also recently come up with a method for a near no cut UAV upgrade solution. This uses a 10pin mini din connector that was used on the Sega Saturn console. As such, the mini din is ideal as it provides for composite, s-video, and the audio all in one place. This way any sega saturn cable sets that have composite, s-video, and audio can be used. Depending on the cable set used, it might not even require any case modification at all! But on the installs I do providing this as a service, I will be widening the RF opening slightly to allow for cable jackets to fit through better for a more full secure seat of the cable into the AV jack. Here is some detail on how that install method looks:
Here I'm using a (Repaired TBA UAV mount) in a low profile install. This install I remove the resistors that would normally be in place where the mount board is located. As the use of the MD10 requires removing the RF modulator, those resistors are no longer required anyway. This isn't needed but I like the way it looks and the mount board pretty much fits right into the original vias that the resistors were in making it way easy to solder into place.
Here is an overview of what the whole setup would look like with an MD10 in place.
Here is how the MD10 looks when soldered to the main board. It does require a very slight angle so that the MD10 sits flush against the back of the shell allowing the cable inserted to go straight in. Otherwise, it might not fit.
And here is what the setup looks like from the outside of the case. In this picture due to the angle of the shot, the md10 doesn't appear very centered. But it is.
Here is a detail of the MD10 av jack centered in the pic so you can see how it would actually be.
Here is a link for the gerber files for the breakout PCB you see in these pics for the MD10 jack. It is designed mainly for the 7800 or UAV installs in general as there are connection pads only for composite, s-video, and the audio. I did create two separate traces for the Left and Right audio for those that want to mess with 'stereo' audio setups. But I also included a jumper pad to put a solder blob on to get dual mono easily. When using the jumper, you only need to attach to one of the audio pads for audio output.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1DzNX17Jef088r-ucAQ8NhD_FGaNMth3Q/view?usp=drive_link
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Bob DeCrescenzo (PacManPlus) did design a 3D printed replacement case shell for the 7800. However, I don't believe this shell has cutouts for the AV jacks so that is something that has to be done separately. Same with the power jack, in that with this 3D printed case, the power port sits too far back inside the shell. So you have to either desolder the plug and snap it into the case shell with additional wire soldered back to the main board or use a different power port/plug combo. Bob has stated that he does NOT want to see folks making these and selling them for profit. So he has released these under an honor policy that you only have them made up for your specific console use.
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I will add more information as needed or requested as it relates specifically to the Atari 7800 and UAV setups.
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Just confirmed that the exact same thing happens in the A7800 emulator using the AB ROM version of the game. The OM version doesn't even load up in emulators. But yeah...ladders can't be climbed until the last two enemies at the end of that section are defeated first and just before moving over to the final enemy and Abobo boss for level 1. Also, I was using elbow punches and reverse jump kicks to take the enemies out quickly as possible and by the time I got to the Abobo, I was down to only 9 left on the timer?! So the timer is moving way too quickly as if you are trying to use normal attacks and the like, you aren't going to get through even level 1 without loosing a life due to the timer. Again, both the non working ladders and the fast timer happen on the 2600+ on the latest FW and also in the A7800 emulator.
Analogue DUO Jailbreak now exists
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I would like to provide an update on this. I've had a chance to use my ADuo a bit more since installing the jail break and overall things are good. That is...except for the CD games. Pretty much every CD game I've loaded up from the SD will play fine for about 20min or so. And then all of sudden I will start to get some severe audio stuttering. When this happens the game will also show some slight hesitation and performance issues. Sometimes, the issue will correct itself, say when something changes and requires the game music to change tracks. But usually when this happens, there will come a point not too long after where the game just freezes and I have no choice but to quite the game and restart it.
Analogue have released new FW for the ADuo that now has the save state support in it. I'm hoping that can be implemented into the jail break FW soon so that at least I can save state my CD games when playing them periodically so if lockups like this occur, I've not wasted 40min of game play in the process.