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    CrossBow reacted to TrekMD in PRGE 2023!   
    I always do and I put together an album>  🙂
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    CrossBow got a reaction from RickR in Which model of the Atari VCS/2600 do people usually prefer ?   
    The loading bars are present on the SC games because that part of the emulated tape loader was added to the Uno and Pluscart. But Fred didn't see a point to them so he opted to leave that loader screen out when loading up SC games on the Harmony flash carts. 
    That said, the Unocarts do have issues with multi-tape/load games. Survival Island for instance will basically lock up when you get to the island. New FW exists for the Uno that fixes this, but I use the newer FW that looks similar to the Pluscart and that hasn't been updated as yet.
     
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    CrossBow got a reaction from sramirez2008 in Which model of the Atari VCS/2600 do people usually prefer ?   
    The loading bars are present on the SC games because that part of the emulated tape loader was added to the Uno and Pluscart. But Fred didn't see a point to them so he opted to leave that loader screen out when loading up SC games on the Harmony flash carts. 
    That said, the Unocarts do have issues with multi-tape/load games. Survival Island for instance will basically lock up when you get to the island. New FW exists for the Uno that fixes this, but I use the newer FW that looks similar to the Pluscart and that hasn't been updated as yet.
     
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    CrossBow got a reaction from RickR in Which model of the Atari VCS/2600 do people usually prefer ?   
    Actually rainbow shifting you see in the whites and text...
    is unfortunately just how the composite output comes out on the CV. On good quality TVs you can even make out some of this rainbow banding through the RF output on the whites although not as pronounced. 

    Crayon King is kinda working on his own CV video upgrade setup that would provide RGB but also provide a new composite and s-video outputs too. If it comes out looking nearly as good as his other kits, it will be the one I'm likely to stock to have on hand for those that want composite and s-video even if they don't want or need the RGB aspect of it.

    But, that said, his kit working the way it does, would also mean that the 2600 expansion module 1 would NOT come through the new AV upgrade. So you would lose that function unless the RF were left in place to handle that still.
     
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    CrossBow got a reaction from - Ω - in Atari 5200 Voice Synthesizer Module   
    Well, another thought is that Atari could have been working on such a module, and then figured out how to do it within the cartridge and normal hardware of the system as both Berzerk and Baseball were released in 1983 after that article was published?
    Another thought is that whomever they were getting their information from with Atari could have been mistaken about how the tech was being done, or it was deliberate as it would be quite something to have speech working from the console and games without extra hardware when the competition required separate modules to be purchased to accomplish this. It would be the shining gold star on Atari's image and on the hardware if it was suddenly announced that they could do the same thing without the extra cost required to consumers.
    So it is all speculate at this point. We know Atari was able to do it as both of the games listed demonstrate. Perhaps mention of a module exists in some paper archives in some body's house still yet to be discovered?
     
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    CrossBow got a reaction from DegasElite in Which model of the Atari VCS/2600 do people usually prefer ?   
    I've always considered this to be the first "Tower of Power" setup vs the Genesis + 32 + Sega CD setups.
     
    That said, I also find it funny that Atari came up with the least elegant looking solution for VCS gaming on a different console. That wouldn't get corrected until the 7800 was released.
     
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    CrossBow got a reaction from DegasElite in Which model of the Atari VCS/2600 do people usually prefer ?   
    I'm going to also answer similar to @MaximumRD and state that this should be possible yes. All of those 2600 clone add on devices work the same way. They are basically self contained 2600 consoles that are only using the power from the parent console to operate. They aren't using any of the actual logic from the parent console. The audio and video from these devices is done by the add on module itself as it is injecting its own audio and composite video output back to the parent console and through the parent consoles RF modulator.

    So if you provided separate power for the devices and add AV jacks along with possible AV upgrade components likely being needed to get a usable composite signal, then yeah, they can all be converted to be stand alone 2600 clones.
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    CrossBow got a reaction from socrates63 in Which model of the Atari VCS/2600 do people usually prefer ?   
    I've always considered this to be the first "Tower of Power" setup vs the Genesis + 32 + Sega CD setups.
     
    That said, I also find it funny that Atari came up with the least elegant looking solution for VCS gaming on a different console. That wouldn't get corrected until the 7800 was released.
     
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    CrossBow got a reaction from socrates63 in Which model of the Atari VCS/2600 do people usually prefer ?   
    Pretty sure we have talked about this before? But as will come to no surprise, my 7800 is my main console I use for both 2600 and 7800 gaming. I had a 4 switch woody originally when I was child, but it was given to my cousins in the late 80s when I got my 7800 and it replaced that 4 switch in our house back then.
    I have just about each model of the 2600 (Minus a 2800 but I've few of the SVA IIs). I do like the Vader models, but I would say my favorite looking one would be the 4 switch woody. Again, it was what I had when I originally grew up with Atari so that will always have that spot even if I don't use one today.
     
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    CrossBow got a reaction from D r Clu in Which model of the Atari VCS/2600 do people usually prefer ?   
    I've always considered this to be the first "Tower of Power" setup vs the Genesis + 32 + Sega CD setups.
     
    That said, I also find it funny that Atari came up with the least elegant looking solution for VCS gaming on a different console. That wouldn't get corrected until the 7800 was released.
     
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    CrossBow got a reaction from D r Clu in Which model of the Atari VCS/2600 do people usually prefer ?   
    I'm going to also answer similar to @MaximumRD and state that this should be possible yes. All of those 2600 clone add on devices work the same way. They are basically self contained 2600 consoles that are only using the power from the parent console to operate. They aren't using any of the actual logic from the parent console. The audio and video from these devices is done by the add on module itself as it is injecting its own audio and composite video output back to the parent console and through the parent consoles RF modulator.

    So if you provided separate power for the devices and add AV jacks along with possible AV upgrade components likely being needed to get a usable composite signal, then yeah, they can all be converted to be stand alone 2600 clones.
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    CrossBow got a reaction from MaximumRD in Which model of the Atari VCS/2600 do people usually prefer ?   
    I've always considered this to be the first "Tower of Power" setup vs the Genesis + 32 + Sega CD setups.
     
    That said, I also find it funny that Atari came up with the least elegant looking solution for VCS gaming on a different console. That wouldn't get corrected until the 7800 was released.
     
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    CrossBow got a reaction from MaximumRD in Which model of the Atari VCS/2600 do people usually prefer ?   
    I'm going to also answer similar to @MaximumRD and state that this should be possible yes. All of those 2600 clone add on devices work the same way. They are basically self contained 2600 consoles that are only using the power from the parent console to operate. They aren't using any of the actual logic from the parent console. The audio and video from these devices is done by the add on module itself as it is injecting its own audio and composite video output back to the parent console and through the parent consoles RF modulator.

    So if you provided separate power for the devices and add AV jacks along with possible AV upgrade components likely being needed to get a usable composite signal, then yeah, they can all be converted to be stand alone 2600 clones.
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    CrossBow got a reaction from sramirez2008 in Atari 5200 Voice Synthesizer Module   
    Well, another thought is that Atari could have been working on such a module, and then figured out how to do it within the cartridge and normal hardware of the system as both Berzerk and Baseball were released in 1983 after that article was published?
    Another thought is that whomever they were getting their information from with Atari could have been mistaken about how the tech was being done, or it was deliberate as it would be quite something to have speech working from the console and games without extra hardware when the competition required separate modules to be purchased to accomplish this. It would be the shining gold star on Atari's image and on the hardware if it was suddenly announced that they could do the same thing without the extra cost required to consumers.
    So it is all speculate at this point. We know Atari was able to do it as both of the games listed demonstrate. Perhaps mention of a module exists in some paper archives in some body's house still yet to be discovered?
     
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    CrossBow got a reaction from DegasElite in Atari 5200 Voice Synthesizer Module   
    Well, another thought is that Atari could have been working on such a module, and then figured out how to do it within the cartridge and normal hardware of the system as both Berzerk and Baseball were released in 1983 after that article was published?
    Another thought is that whomever they were getting their information from with Atari could have been mistaken about how the tech was being done, or it was deliberate as it would be quite something to have speech working from the console and games without extra hardware when the competition required separate modules to be purchased to accomplish this. It would be the shining gold star on Atari's image and on the hardware if it was suddenly announced that they could do the same thing without the extra cost required to consumers.
    So it is all speculate at this point. We know Atari was able to do it as both of the games listed demonstrate. Perhaps mention of a module exists in some paper archives in some body's house still yet to be discovered?
     
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    CrossBow got a reaction from RickR in Atari 5200 Voice Synthesizer Module   
    Well, another thought is that Atari could have been working on such a module, and then figured out how to do it within the cartridge and normal hardware of the system as both Berzerk and Baseball were released in 1983 after that article was published?
    Another thought is that whomever they were getting their information from with Atari could have been mistaken about how the tech was being done, or it was deliberate as it would be quite something to have speech working from the console and games without extra hardware when the competition required separate modules to be purchased to accomplish this. It would be the shining gold star on Atari's image and on the hardware if it was suddenly announced that they could do the same thing without the extra cost required to consumers.
    So it is all speculate at this point. We know Atari was able to do it as both of the games listed demonstrate. Perhaps mention of a module exists in some paper archives in some body's house still yet to be discovered?
     
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    CrossBow got a reaction from RickR in Which model of the Atari VCS/2600 do people usually prefer ?   
    I've always considered this to be the first "Tower of Power" setup vs the Genesis + 32 + Sega CD setups.
     
    That said, I also find it funny that Atari came up with the least elegant looking solution for VCS gaming on a different console. That wouldn't get corrected until the 7800 was released.
     
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    CrossBow got a reaction from sramirez2008 in Which model of the Atari VCS/2600 do people usually prefer ?   
    I'm going to also answer similar to @MaximumRD and state that this should be possible yes. All of those 2600 clone add on devices work the same way. They are basically self contained 2600 consoles that are only using the power from the parent console to operate. They aren't using any of the actual logic from the parent console. The audio and video from these devices is done by the add on module itself as it is injecting its own audio and composite video output back to the parent console and through the parent consoles RF modulator.

    So if you provided separate power for the devices and add AV jacks along with possible AV upgrade components likely being needed to get a usable composite signal, then yeah, they can all be converted to be stand alone 2600 clones.
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    CrossBow got a reaction from MaximumRD in Which model of the Atari VCS/2600 do people usually prefer ?   
    Pretty sure we have talked about this before? But as will come to no surprise, my 7800 is my main console I use for both 2600 and 7800 gaming. I had a 4 switch woody originally when I was child, but it was given to my cousins in the late 80s when I got my 7800 and it replaced that 4 switch in our house back then.
    I have just about each model of the 2600 (Minus a 2800 but I've few of the SVA IIs). I do like the Vader models, but I would say my favorite looking one would be the 4 switch woody. Again, it was what I had when I originally grew up with Atari so that will always have that spot even if I don't use one today.
     
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    CrossBow got a reaction from Jinroh in Which model of the Atari VCS/2600 do people usually prefer ?   
    Pretty sure we have talked about this before? But as will come to no surprise, my 7800 is my main console I use for both 2600 and 7800 gaming. I had a 4 switch woody originally when I was child, but it was given to my cousins in the late 80s when I got my 7800 and it replaced that 4 switch in our house back then.
    I have just about each model of the 2600 (Minus a 2800 but I've few of the SVA IIs). I do like the Vader models, but I would say my favorite looking one would be the 4 switch woody. Again, it was what I had when I originally grew up with Atari so that will always have that spot even if I don't use one today.
     
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    CrossBow got a reaction from TrekMD in OMG! Really! - Vectrex prices on eBay   
    @- Ω - this is what you are looking at if you want all of the Vector arcade games working on a Vectrex. 

    VecFever on Ebay. Need some deep pockets though!
    So glad I was able to get mine when I did years ago!
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    CrossBow got a reaction from - Ω - in OMG! Really! - Vectrex prices on eBay   
    @- Ω - this is what you are looking at if you want all of the Vector arcade games working on a Vectrex. 

    VecFever on Ebay. Need some deep pockets though!
    So glad I was able to get mine when I did years ago!
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    CrossBow got a reaction from DegasElite in Which model of the Atari VCS/2600 do people usually prefer ?   
    Pretty sure we have talked about this before? But as will come to no surprise, my 7800 is my main console I use for both 2600 and 7800 gaming. I had a 4 switch woody originally when I was child, but it was given to my cousins in the late 80s when I got my 7800 and it replaced that 4 switch in our house back then.
    I have just about each model of the 2600 (Minus a 2800 but I've few of the SVA IIs). I do like the Vader models, but I would say my favorite looking one would be the 4 switch woody. Again, it was what I had when I originally grew up with Atari so that will always have that spot even if I don't use one today.
     
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    CrossBow got a reaction from sramirez2008 in OMG! Really! - Vectrex prices on eBay   
    @- Ω - this is what you are looking at if you want all of the Vector arcade games working on a Vectrex. 

    VecFever on Ebay. Need some deep pockets though!
    So glad I was able to get mine when I did years ago!
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    CrossBow got a reaction from sramirez2008 in Which model of the Atari VCS/2600 do people usually prefer ?   
    Pretty sure we have talked about this before? But as will come to no surprise, my 7800 is my main console I use for both 2600 and 7800 gaming. I had a 4 switch woody originally when I was child, but it was given to my cousins in the late 80s when I got my 7800 and it replaced that 4 switch in our house back then.
    I have just about each model of the 2600 (Minus a 2800 but I've few of the SVA IIs). I do like the Vader models, but I would say my favorite looking one would be the 4 switch woody. Again, it was what I had when I originally grew up with Atari so that will always have that spot even if I don't use one today.
     
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