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A group of folks purchased the molds for the Atari Jaguar. Both console and cart molds. They plan to create a NEW cart based console where you can once again collect NEW carts for it. I posted a link to a video that explains it all, well what there is to know. (Link below) I will be covering the progress of this new system. The Creep is excited and so should you.

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So it's not just clear Atari Jaguar shells then, it's a new retro system? What games will they have? What makes it different?

 

Good questions.....no one knows yet. It would be nice if it played the earlier games that Retron 5 doesn't....Atari, Mattel, Coleco, GCE, etc.

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author of "The Atari 2600 Homebrew Companion" book series available on Amazon! www.amazon.com/author/brianmatherne

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Those are awesome pics of the clear Jaguar! I may contact them and try to by shells if I can find a Jaguar board to put inside. I'm seeing this is two separate things though, pre-ordering clear Jaguar shells, and then rumors of a new cartridge console that plays retro games.

 

Yep.....you would have to pre-order the clear shells/carts by Monday!! They are cutting it off on that date. Then you'd still have to get a real Jaguar console to swap the insides. Later on they will produce the Retro VGS console with the same mold - probably black plastic again. (thru Kickstarter)

Brian Matherne - owner/curator of "The MOST comprehensive list of Atari VCS/2600 homebrews ever compiled." http://tiny.cc/Atari2600Homebrew

author of "The Atari 2600 Homebrew Companion" book series available on Amazon! www.amazon.com/author/brianmatherne

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I think that this will be cool. I really want to know how much it will be and how to develop for it.

 

It's still at least a year or two out from production I'd say..........

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author of "The Atari 2600 Homebrew Companion" book series available on Amazon! www.amazon.com/author/brianmatherne

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it was great having ReadRetro (Mike Kennedy) coming to chat answering questions about his new retro system and such not to mention giving a clear Atari Jaguar casing and cartridge for trivia and free didgital copy of Retro Magazine. Hopefully he can be active in the community here.

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VGS website: http://videogamesummit.net

 

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plus he gave away a clear console shell and clear cart in the chat room last night..........unfortunately I didn't win :(

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author of "The Atari 2600 Homebrew Companion" book series available on Amazon! www.amazon.com/author/brianmatherne

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heres some more about retro vgs from a post mike did at AA

 

Hey Guys!

I just wanted to address the cartridge pricing. We will be doing all manufacturing of both the consoles and cartridges here in the USA (PCB's however, will be contract manufactured and arrive to our facility as a sub assembly), under our own roof, in Southern California. Carts will be priced based on the games that are on them. For example, a new game from a fledgling indie or homebrew developer might be priced $19.99 while a popular franchise sequel might be $40-$50 depending on licensing costs mainly! And everything inbetween. So the short answer are carts will be priced from $19.99 to $49.99.

We are targeting the console to be $149.99. The retail box will include the console with four controller ports ( x 2 USB for the x 2 pack-in controllers and x 2 9-Pin ports for classic controllers), a pack-in game (possibly up to three pack-in games only for Kickstarter buyers), HDMI cable (and possibly composite and/or S-Video too) and AC Adapter. There is a small chance this might have to price out at $179.99 based on system hardware which will be a gamers and developers delight. . . . but doing all we can to try and stay at that $150 price point.

More details will be revealed about system hardware and development criteria soon.

AVC Online:atari-video.club

VGS website: http://videogamesummit.net

 

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More information on the programs side of Retro VGS from Mike Kennedy on Atari age:

 

 

Here is some additional explanation from my partner, Steve Woita, "To answer the question: "What language will games be in? " My answer is: It depends. If a developer wants to make a Neo Geo game, they would include an HDL file that configures the FPGA to operate like a Neo Geo. The developer would code their game to run against the Neo Geo platform. This HDL code along with the actual Neo Geo game will be on the cartridge. Once that cartridge is placed in the RETRO VGS, it will become a Neo Geo and play that game. So in this case, the language is: 68000 and Z80 code. If you wanted to do a new 2600 styled game, you'd include a 2600 HDL file that configures the FPGA to replicate the logic of the original 2600 hardware and then you'd include your new 2600 game on that cartridge too. These two files are then paired up on the cartridge and when plugged into the RETRO VGS, will turn the console into a 2600. So the language that would be used in this case is: 6507 (6502 with less address space). Does that help explain things a little "bit" more?"

 

Note, we aren't doing this so much for hardware emulation of older software, but more importantly, giving developers the ability to program  their new games using what they are already familiar with (Atari, SNES, NES, GENESIS, etc.).  In a sense we might also be able to replicate an Android system and open this up to Unity developers as well.  So basically, low level, Unity, etc. could all be possible.  Also, it's important to note that cartridges are the real brains behind our console.

 

We are working on board layout, bill of materials, etc. so should have more info on this in the next few weeks.

AVC Online:atari-video.club

VGS website: http://videogamesummit.net

 

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If they can pull off Neo Geo style games, that might be their lifesaver.  The Neo Geo had some great looking games and the arcade system lasted a long time based on their strong 2D games.  Neo Geo may have the best 2D retro graphics out there.  And it would be something that isn't seen as much in the homebrew scene.  But of course, at the $150 price point, they will need several great games to sell the system.  So far, the first game looks like something that could easily be done on the Master System, so something with more oomph would help.

 

The only other thing I can think of that could move the system is if you could somehow license popular series like Contra, Castlevania and Double Dragon and bring out new 8-bit and 16 bit style games based on those properties. Of course, this may not be possible financially, but you never know.

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The new "Treasure Series" was just announced...........

 

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limited to 5000 total of the 3 colors above

 

 

http://lasttokengaming.com/the-retro-vgs-what-we-know-so-far/

Brian Matherne - owner/curator of "The MOST comprehensive list of Atari VCS/2600 homebrews ever compiled." http://tiny.cc/Atari2600Homebrew

author of "The Atari 2600 Homebrew Companion" book series available on Amazon! www.amazon.com/author/brianmatherne

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Hugues of the Retro League did a recent interview with Milke.  It sounds like the price may be going up. My current guess is that standard systems will be $200, maybe more, and the extra colors will cost you, so the treasure series may end up being $300 with other colors being less. Again, just guessing.

 

http://traffic.libsyn.com/theretroleague/TheRetroLeague_RetroVGS-Interview.mp3

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Host of The Atari 7800 Game by Game Podcast on iTunes, Stitcher and YouTube

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It sounds like the price may be going up. 

 

It sounds about right......thats the whole purpose of Kickstarter is to raise MONEY! (to quote Mr. Wonderful)  

 

Of course the gold, silver, bronze are going to be higher - I figured around $500+ each, and I figured the actual units (after Kickstarter) would be sold for the $150-$200 range.

Brian Matherne - owner/curator of "The MOST comprehensive list of Atari VCS/2600 homebrews ever compiled." http://tiny.cc/Atari2600Homebrew

author of "The Atari 2600 Homebrew Companion" book series available on Amazon! www.amazon.com/author/brianmatherne

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It's pretty for sure, but if they want a $200-$300 price point they need a LOT more than pretty.

 

Ironically, if they come out for $250, it will be the same price of the Atari Jaguar at launch!

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Host of The Atari 7800 Game by Game Podcast on iTunes, Stitcher and YouTube

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Ironically, if they come out for $250, it will be the same price of the Atari Jaguar at launch!

Yes it would!

Brian Matherne - owner/curator of "The MOST comprehensive list of Atari VCS/2600 homebrews ever compiled." http://tiny.cc/Atari2600Homebrew

author of "The Atari 2600 Homebrew Companion" book series available on Amazon! www.amazon.com/author/brianmatherne

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