Cybermario Posted March 1, 2016 Report Share Posted March 1, 2016 (edited) funny, considering John was (kind of) defending how the Coleco Chameleon was a prototype on his fb wall Edit: DeLorean beat me to it haha Edited March 1, 2016 by Cybermario MaximumRD, Lost Dragon, Justin and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Posted March 1, 2016 Report Share Posted March 1, 2016 Um..... Excuse me.. How is Collectorvision disavowing themselves of the Coleco Chameleon like they're victims kept in the dark just as much as we have been, when in fact they've been making posts leading people to believe their games "play great" on the Chameleon prototype? Right before the Toy Fair, Collectorvision posted this photo of the Coleco Chameleon "Prototype 1" dev unit and cartridge next to a TV that makes it look like the Chameleon prototype is playing their game. Collectorvision posted the following message: "One of our games we're working one, (sic) Sydney Hunter and the Caverns of Death running on the upcoming Coleco Chameleon prototype system. It plays great on it, and it will be playable at this weekend's New York Toy Fair event." Assuming Collectorvision is being honest in their statement tonight, it's possible they developed their game for SNES, provided the SNES ROM to the Coleco Chameleon team who then sent the above photo back to Collectorvision with the good news that their game "plays great" on the prototype. If Collectorvision is being upfront about all this, that would be my best guess. Lost Dragon, The Professor and MaximumRD 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cybermario Posted March 1, 2016 Report Share Posted March 1, 2016 well, Gamester81 (John Lester) is not a tech guy, may be the guy with less or null knowledge of coding and programming in that company. Either he hypes the product out of ignorance or is a sellout, you decide. AlamoAtari and The Professor 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Posted March 1, 2016 Report Share Posted March 1, 2016 If they developed an SNES game for the Coleco Chameleon it's entirely plausible that Collectorvision had the wool pulled over their eyes and had no idea what was up. There's a lot more to this story, that I assure you. Let's wait for the other shoe to drop and see what they say. MaximumRD, The Professor and Lost Dragon 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaximumRD Posted March 1, 2016 Report Share Posted March 1, 2016 Well it is blowing up all over Facebook, various forums, youtube etc. Feeling vindicated and oddly none of those on Facebook who insisted I was a troll or just some guy who had no proof and was just "hater" seem to be saying anything now lol. I always call them as I see them which is not always popular when you are conveying things people just don't want to hear so it is pretty sweet to see this outcome. The Professor, Lost Dragon and Justin 3 Quote I am Rob aka MaximumRD aka OldSchoolRetroGamer and THIS is my world http://about.me/maximumrd "For you, the day Bison graced your village was the most important day of your life. But for me, it was Tuesday." - M. Bison Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Posted March 1, 2016 Report Share Posted March 1, 2016 More is coming. MaximumRD, DeLorean and The Professor 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor Octagon Posted March 1, 2016 Report Share Posted March 1, 2016 Yo-Yo, The Professor and MaximumRD 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Professor Posted March 1, 2016 Report Share Posted March 1, 2016 well, Gamester81 (John Lester) is not a tech guy, may be the guy with less or null knowledge of coding and programming in that company. Either he hypes the product out of ignorance or is a sellout, you decide. Both? DeLorean and MaximumRD 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Professor Posted March 1, 2016 Report Share Posted March 1, 2016 If they developed an SNES game for the Coleco Chameleon it's entirely plausible that Collectorvision had the wool pulled over their eyes and had no idea what was up. There's a lot more to this story, that I assure you. Let's wait for the other shoe to drop and see what they say. Why have we already accepted this notion that a SNES game developed for a "retro console" to run on its "SNES core" is really a game for that retro console? How did we get okie-doked into accepting this fallacy? The fact that were even having this conversation shows you just how far things have gone. It's still an SNES game whether it's running on an original hardware, emulation, Retron 5, Coleco Chameleon, or Omnivision. MaximumRD 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioPoultry Posted March 1, 2016 Report Share Posted March 1, 2016 So disappointing. I was hoping to see a blurry hamster wheel spinning in there. The Professor, Clint Thompson, Cybermario and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arenafoot Posted March 1, 2016 Report Share Posted March 1, 2016 (edited) enough said........... http://retrogamingmagazine.com/2016/03/01/coleco-chameleon-prototype-3-proven-fake-by-community-of-retro-gaming-sleuths/ Edited March 1, 2016 by Arenafoot Lost Dragon 1 Quote Brian Matherne - owner/curator of "The MOST comprehensive list of Atari VCS/2600 homebrews ever compiled." http://tiny.cc/Atari2600Homebrew author of "The Atari 2600 Homebrew Companion" book series available on Amazon! www.amazon.com/author/brianmatherne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atari Creep Posted March 1, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 1, 2016 This is insanely unreal. I don't get it. Are they just rushing to get this thing off the ground? Take your time and do what needs to be done to see it through. Shirt or get off the pot. Jeezzz. The Professor 1 Quote Don't just watch TV, PLAY IT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Iacovelli Posted March 1, 2016 Report Share Posted March 1, 2016 now I'm very skeptical about this. basically anybody can turn their pc into game system and stream to smart tv with a dlna server if they use an emu and another program called kodi to run it through. Quote AVC Online:atari-video.club VGS website: http://videogamesummit.net Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clint Thompson Posted March 1, 2016 Report Share Posted March 1, 2016 Can't forsee them getting much of any support now that they've deceived and lost the trust of anyone and everyone. Such a shame too, considering the free press of gaming sites they were given and the amount of people that were actually interested in something like this to materialize. Those poor Jaguar molds.... such a shame I don't have the money or means of obtaining them. Lost Dragon, The Professor, Dan Iacovelli and 1 other 4 Quote 7800 - 130XE - XEGS - Lynx - Jaguar - ISO: Atari Falcon030 | STBook |STe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cybermario Posted March 1, 2016 Report Share Posted March 1, 2016 Both? someone reminded me of the infomercial he did before, his behavior is something to be ashamed for. You cant defend something you havent seen working by yourself (aka opened and see it real and working) while you go in a podcast and call the people calling on Mike' BS toxic. MaximumRD 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atari Creep Posted March 1, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 1, 2016 ****strong language**** MaximumRD and The Professor 2 Quote Don't just watch TV, PLAY IT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post btbfilms76 Posted March 1, 2016 Popular Post Report Share Posted March 1, 2016 So I've been sitting on this story for a while but I think its now time to tell another part of the story... The Jag Bar was once involved with the Coleco Chameleon kickstarter. Sabertooth, The Professor, leolinden and 9 others 12 Quote Host of The Jag Bar • Lynx Lounge • 7800 Avenue Watch now on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCrhPvmALbHpBUqrbBOms5Vw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Posted March 1, 2016 Report Share Posted March 1, 2016 Incredible. Lost Dragon, Yo-Yo, The Professor and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atari Creep Posted March 1, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 1, 2016 Great video. Justin, Lost Dragon and The Professor 3 Quote Don't just watch TV, PLAY IT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leolinden Posted March 2, 2016 Report Share Posted March 2, 2016 So I've been sitting on this story for a while but I think its now time to tell another part of the story... The Jag Bar was once involved with the Coleco Chameleon kickstarter. So Pat the NES Punk commented on the video. Justin 1 Quote Retro obsessed dude Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Posted March 2, 2016 Report Share Posted March 2, 2016 BTB did a fantastic job with this. Here's Pat's post: Yo-Yo, MaximumRD, The Professor and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlamoAtari Posted March 2, 2016 Report Share Posted March 2, 2016 Absolutely rediculous, I feel bad about so many people getting the wool pulled over their eyes with this ponsy scheme that Mike Kennedy drummed up. I mean seriously, a lot of people that were being used in this name dropping thing that Mike was playing. Like some sort of playground game, "hey we are going to ditch class, Jeff, Pat and Keith are going too, meet behind the gym at The bell." But it ends up that only 2 people show up just you and Mike and when you ask where everyone else is, he tells you that they're around the corner, another lie. I just hope actual money wasn't taken from people, and if so, maybe they can get it back. The pitch forks and torches are out in full force now. DeLorean and The Professor 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlamoAtari Posted March 2, 2016 Report Share Posted March 2, 2016 well, Gamester81 (John Lester) is not a tech guy, may be the guy with less or null knowledge of coding and programming in that company. Either he hypes the product out of ignorance or is a sellout, you decide. John Lester is taking a page from Mike Kennedy and is starting to delete everything involved with this, I wish that he would be a bit more honest as to what was his involvement. If he was just being a mouthpiece or got paid for his actions. But to act like nothing happened is a bit childish. But then again here comes the pitchforks and torches.... DeLorean and The Professor 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post btbfilms76 Posted March 2, 2016 Popular Post Report Share Posted March 2, 2016 Here we go folks... [MIKE KENNEDY LEAD-IN] Hi everyone, I’m Mike Kennedy and we are very excited to introduce you to the Coleco Chameleon. The Coleco Chameleon is a new cartridge based video gaming console that is designed to play both a variety of classic games from the 80’s and 90’s and also new retro inspired games coming from today’s homebrew, indie and mainstream developers. We have spent the last few months creating a working prototype as well as seeking out launch games that will scratch that retro itch in all of you. We hope you will consider backing our campaign and help to spread the word of our campaign to your gaming friends and family. [sTUDIO SET KIDS PLAYING GAMES WITH FADE TO GAMEPLAY VIDEO MONTAGE-Montezuma’s Revenge, Pepper II, Astrosmash, Night Stalker] Remember when video-games looked like video-games? When colorful, imaginative sprites popped off the screen and into your living room. When games were more than an impulsive download; they were highly prized, magical transports into a fantasy world all delivered inside plastic cartridges. [GAMEPLAY VIDEO MONTAGE-Iron Commando, Dorke & YMP] Remember when games were hard but you still couldn’t tear yourself away from playing? When they didn’t include lengthy tutorials or unlimited continues or saves? Remember when games came with instruction books that you actually wanted to read cover-to-cover? [TRANSITION TO LIVING ROOM SET, KIDS ON COUCH PLAYING CHAMELEON] Remember that feeling you had buying a game in the store and bringing it home and playing it for the first time with your friends and family, all in the same room? We want to bring those magical times back with the introduction of the COLECO Chameleon. The COLECO Chameleon is the first new home console in nearly 20 years that will play new games on cartridges and once again give today’s gamers something to buy, play, trade and collect for a lifetime. [TRANSITION TO COLECO MONTAGE] It also marks the return of the COLECO brand name, a brand synonymous with the history of electronic handheld games and video games. COLECO was a pioneer bringing some of the first PONG systems into the home in the 1970’s followed by the hugely successful Colecovision in the 1980’s, the first system to bring near arcade perfect graphics into over two million living rooms. And it was the company that made Nintendo a house-hold name when Donkey Kong was packed into every Colecovision retail box sold. [TRANSITION TO CHAMELEON CONSOLE MANTAGE] The COLECO Chameleon is designed to be the ultimate retro gaming system. It has the ability to accurately play a variety of your favorite classic video games, available as compilation cartridges, while also being an outlet for many all-new, classically inspired games being programmed by some of today’s best homebrew, indie and mainstream game developers. Now recognized as art form in of itself, retro gaming is once again a mainstay in today’s gaming landscape as developers are realizing classic graphics and gameplay mechanics are still entertaining even in this age of triple A, big budget cinematic titles. The COLECO Chameleon is the best way to experience this new wave of RETRO. Get ready to Play Again. [MIKE KENNEDY CALL TO ACTION] If you’re as excited as we are after viewing this, you have a chance to be one of the first gamers to have a Coleco Chameleon before it’s introduced commercially. Now, you can play the old games you loved when you were younger, help your friends and family make memories of their own, and enjoy the new games from our collection. On behalf of my team at Retro Video Game Systems, Inc. and Coleco Holdings we ask for your consideration to help us bring the COLECO Chameleon into homes around the world. This is a product that needs grass roots support to grow as it is so completely opposite of where the video-game industry is heading. Help us change the future of gaming by bringing back the RETRO. [TRANSITION TO FADE OUT OF LIVING ROOM. ADULTS 30’s NOW ON COUCH HAVING FUN PLAYING CHAMELEON] [TRANSISTION FADE TO BLACK SCREEN. POP IN COLECO CHAMELEON LOGO + REMEMBER WHEN. PLAY AGAIN. TAGLINE] AlamoAtari, Justin, Sabertooth and 5 others 8 Quote Host of The Jag Bar • Lynx Lounge • 7800 Avenue Watch now on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCrhPvmALbHpBUqrbBOms5Vw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabertooth Posted March 2, 2016 Report Share Posted March 2, 2016 (edited) Thanks for sharing your experiences with the project BTB. Its very interesting to get the perspective of someone that was involved. I also appreciate that you maintained your principles by refusing to do the video without a working prototype. The high ethical standards of the Jag-Bar apparently eclipse those of Engadget and CNET! Now, I don't know MK personally but I did initially have high hopes for the first RVGS campaign. Prior to the Indiegogo attempt, I had purchased a Lynx from him through Game Gavel, backed the first Retro Magazine Kickstarter and picked up a translucent Jaguar shell. Based on those experiences and his general reputation in the scene, I thought he might be able to pull it off. The John Carlsen video soured me on that project though and when the it quickly reemerged with Coleco branding, I opted to wait in quiet skepticism. As it is, this appears to have been an outright deception and I will not support any MK projects moving forward. If I had kept my subscription to Retro, I would cancel it. Edited March 2, 2016 by atarilbc Yo-Yo, The Professor, btbfilms76 and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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