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hi everyone, please view our latest game we are working on. its getting very close, hope to have it for a holiday release. we are also interested if anyone thinks we should port this to the atari 5200 also, feedback will be appreciated. thanks for viewing, lance www.atarisales.com

hi paul, i think i have one of those also, except it has 4 megs. so nice find. does it have a r.f. out also? lance www.atarisales.com

hi Scott, all true, and its why i too observed relying on hardware to generate massive profits worked in the 1970s when there was little competition, but by 1980 that scenerio evaporated. jack never figured it out. he was obessed with cutting costs on hardware to generate profits to the point where there was no profit period anymore. when you sell 7800 joysticks with copper domes on the fire buttons, when you sell cartridges where the shell can crumble, when you sell cartridges that no longer work in your machines because you cheapened the electronics up to the point where either the circuit boards are so thin on the carts, that they make contact with the port pins difficult, or the motherboards so thin they crack when a cart is installed or pulled out of the machine, and if you hold the shell to help pull out the cart and the shells shatters, or the games no longer work because of cheapened electronics, you should take notice that profit from hardware is a fools game. space invaders showed the computer world that its the games stupid! i was told that there were plenty of games being developed for the jaguar, but most developers did not trust jack, so the games were tossed. jack wanted 100% profit from games, but lusted after a few percent from hardware. if the games were not all big sellers, he was enraged. if he sold millions of a unit and made little or no money, he was happy. i have a fax from atari right before they dumped the 8-bit lines showing what was left in stock for games. can't read it today, too degraded, but it showed even the XEGS tiny library, most games either sold out, or almost sold out, they were a success. the overstock that was left came out of the warner days when atari was king. otherwise jack's releases almost all of the them sold way over 50% of the stock except a few. many flat sold out totally. you would think that that would light a bulb, it did not. lance www.atarisales.com

hi, welcome aboard. i used to sell to a major atari dealer in winnipeg, forgot their name, its been 30 years since i spoke with them. i doubt they are still around. but one time they told me that they sold atari falcon computers to your tax authorities, so maybe they are still around? lance www.atarisales.com

time flies, because on atari.io, we are having fun! THANK YOU JUSTIN!!!! lance www.atarisales.com

hi justin, yes they had four games announced. but relying on the atari market, to shaky. activision told me all of their 7800 stuff sold well, and that included absolutes stuff. they even had a few titles where they had to reorder, i think one was title match pro wrestling. lance www.atarisales.com

hi noswear, cracked did not sell well at all, same with jinx. cracked should have used a light gun, and jinx paddles, but paddles are not very usable in 7800 mode. i have pitfighter, and gato that never were released, to bad on gato, what was there looked great! but there were many announced, and nothing has ever surfaced, like the tank game on the box. i think it all boiled down to jacks business practices. lance www.atarisales.com

hi rickr, awesome. try this root beer if you can. its from my neck of the woods, so you would have to have it shipped, https://www.1919rootbeer.com/ this is also liquid gold. i know a bar that sells more of this, than beer. lance www.atarisales.com

hi justin, its actually orange cream soda is on of my favoritie pops. boylans orange cream soda is to die for, goose island is not bad. i have not tried virgils yet. but they have cane sugar, so i only imbibe rarely. so far no orange cream soda in the stevia pop world yet, there is virgils orange which is ok, but its not a cream soda. virgils zero cram soda is very good, i consider it liquid gold. lance www.atarisales.com

hi everyone, i can attest 100% to this. you wanna know why all of a sudden there were no new lynx games for over 6 months, then you got some schlock game like robo sqaush which was quickly thrown together to plug that 6 month hole, because jack screwed epyx big time, and epyx instead of handing the games over to atari who had them at their mercy for a few thousand dollars, tossed them, according to legend, 25 lynx games almost finished. i had been told that repeatedly by atari employees. i even had a letter for john scruch saying to jack, he knew they could make money on those games. he also never said anything about gary. lance www.atarisales.com

hi justin, BINGO! lance www.atarisales.com

hi justin, true, they were. but, a small operation did them. so what was jacks excuse? also, i completely sold out of the froggo 7800 games repeatedly. they sold as well as double dragon and rampage for me. lance www.atarisales.com

hi noswear, you forgot super skateboardin, and tomcat f-14. i sold the living daylights out of those games. they were fun to. lance www.atarisales.com

hi 5200 guy, i used to carry them, tank command and water ski. hard but fun games. lance www.atarisales.com

hi guys, thanks all! lance www.atarisales.com

hi, atarilbc, you are welcome. lance www.atarisales.com

hi justin, i meant if froggo had licensed their controllers to atari. lance www.atarisales.com

hi justin, but the labels on the carts, that dull grey silver on many of them. they finally got some color to them later on. and activisions artwork on their packaging was superior. lance www.atarisales.com

hi justin, jack would have had to pay froggo for a license. to costly. and jack always micromanged the manufacturing process, in hopes of finding a supplier that was in financial trouble, which would have given jack leverage to offer the supplier a take it, or leave it payment. he did this all of the time. jack watched the business sections of papers like a hawk, always on the lookout for suppliers of atari that fell into trouble. that type of mentality left so many with bad tastes in their mouths, so that who would trust them, who would support them its like being shackled to a cannibal. in asia mention jack t. and atari, you might not get out alive in many places. but he always treated me decently. lance www.atarisales.com

hi nosweargamer, now this came from atari themselves, is it true, i do not know because jack was a master at moving merchandise around the world to evade taxes, but i was told the 7800 sold ten million units when atari quit counting them. way more than enough to attract third party developers, if atari themselves had only supported the machine properly, they could have given nintendo a run for their money. i was sent a letter one time from atari stating the release dates on up and coming 7800 games, many were never released, hardly any that were released, were even close to the release date, what was released later on i found were cut down in size. i called them one time because i was getting such pressure from customers over the 7800 version of california games which was listed in that letter. i was told by atari that there is a 2600 version, like duh! i carried that from day one, i was told that atari had decided that the 2600 version was good enough, even though they had announced a 7800 version. again, you can't make this stuff up. lance www.atarisales.com

hi 5200 guy, and when i went to work for the nintendo distributor, i found out how deep into making nintendo games jack had become. i knew a programmer at tengen, jack would come in a yell like crazy at the programmers because games were not being developed fast enough. at the same time telling atari distributors, venders and customers, that they could not get any games to release, nintendo had them all tied up, pure rubbish. its hard to understand this thinking, except everything was based on price. there was no other thought process. while nintendo games were selling for 70-90 dollars because of the huge demand on certain titles, atari was trying to sell their own games cheap, so as to attract buyers. but with so few titles, and bare bones advertising and uninspiring packaging, that to failed. except the packaging of the XEGM and carts. i used to talk to other atari people back in those days, and i would always ask, why such attractive packaging for the XEGS stuff, and bland for the 7800? no one ever said why. then of course they quit supporting it before it hardly got off of the ground. and many titles had sold out, or were almost sold out. its almost like they did not want to support a machine where the stuff sold to well, it might require that they had to make second orders of games, to costly. i know retail store managers like that. if the product sells to much, they quite carrying it, in their eyes they view labor to costly, to restock shelves full of merchandize that constantly sells out making them all sorts of money. they are very happy with well stocked shelves of stuff that sell slowly. no wonder america is in trouble. lance www.atarisales.com

hi nosweargamer, cool, you found pics. thanks. yes why did jack buy atari. because he came from a era where hardware made money. that era was short lived, by 1980 it was over. he never figured it out. the froggo guy could have found gold, if only atari had spent a little on advertising on t.v. jack cut so many corners making stuff ever cheaper in the hopes of making money off of hardware, that in the end stuff got so cheap, that it was hurting them, not helping. yet nintendo was flooding the market with games, and only redesigned the NES towards the end of its life cycle. they made a bundle off of the nes because of games. lance www.atarisales.com

hi, this i can attest to. i was told the same thing by an Atari employee about the Froggo guy. also, i too got a two hour lecture from one of the Tramiels on the evils of video games. also the Froggo guy was kind of a one man operation. when i called, no one hardly ever answered, it would just ring and ring. and when someone answered, it was always the Froggo guy. Froggo was making controllers for the NES at that time also. the Froggo guy called me one time to let me know that my orders for Pyromania and Night of the Ninja for the Atari 7800 were about to be filled. two weeks later i called when they did not arrive, the phone was disconnected. once Atari told me that if i wanted new games, go to work for Nintendo. in fact, they gave me a name, and i worked for a Nintendo distributor for 6 months. the distributor was waiting for me, knew my name ahead of time. later on i found out Atari was programming games for the NES. i found that out when i bought a bunch of hard drives out of the Atari office. SNK's Ikari Warriors and Millipede were on one of the hard drives, i have the NES source codes for the games. then when i complained that a lack of modern productivity software and disk storage was hurting their 8-bit sales. many people are unaware that the 130 XE was favored by many authors, they told me to tell them to buy a PC. folks you can't make this stuff up about the Tramiels. it's a wonder they lasted as they did. lance www.atarisales.com

hi rickr, awesome over view. lance www.atarisales.com

hi trekmd, it sure looks like a more filled out game to me also. my kids used to play the 7800 version all of the time. i played the xe version mostly. lance www.atarisales.com