Kid A Posted December 14, 2016 Report Posted December 14, 2016 (edited) So about 9 months ago, a friend came into a game shop i help out at and came in with a box that had an atari 400 which the housing was all cracked and broken, and a handfull of games like pengo, pole position, space invaders, donkey kong and more. There was one that was unmarked and had a label that reads GABE on it. He asked me if i wanted it for free and being it was pretty damaged. And naturally i said yeah! That night i test the 400 to see if it works,and it does! I pop in the cart marked GABE and its a game called Kindercomp. Today, for some reason i opened it and discovered that theres a EPROM that has a sticker on it. I know that this is not typically how its done. Do you guys think this is some sort of prototype? Edited December 14, 2016 by KidA0723 RickR, Atari 5200 Guy, Lost Dragon and 1 other 4 Quote
Justin Posted December 14, 2016 Report Posted December 14, 2016 Well, you were smart to open it up, that's definitely an EPROM and you're right that it's not how it's typically done. Atari 5200 Guy 1 Quote
Atari 5200 Guy Posted December 15, 2016 Report Posted December 15, 2016 The sticker is most likely to protect the EPROM. If the EPROM has a window, and it's exposed to UV light like sunlight, it can damage the EPROM. There's usually some kind of handwriting on the labels that protect the EPROM(s) but I don't see that here. It almost looks like an old price tag sticker. That shell looks almost like the Sega style shells found on some 2600 games. Does the game have copyright text on a Title Screen or anything? Justin 1 Quote
RickR Posted December 15, 2016 Report Posted December 15, 2016 It does look like a normal Kindercomp shell (with the label missing). I will see if I can open mine up without damaging the label and see if it also has an EEPROM. Atari 5200 Guy 1 Quote
Atari 5200 Guy Posted December 15, 2016 Report Posted December 15, 2016 I found a YouTube video on this. It appears to have been an official release. It was available for other computer consoles as well. Chances are that your copy had lost its label at one point and someone simply used a label to put their name on it. But...I could be wrong and you could have a prototype of what I have found. It's really hard to say as Atari systems have tons of prototypes floating around that never got released or were forgot about...and I'm pretty sure there are some that we have yet to see. MaximumRD 1 Quote
RickR Posted December 15, 2016 Report Posted December 15, 2016 It is definitely a common game, available for many of the 8-bit computers of the time. I have it for both Atari and C64. But it sure seems like the EEPROM is uncommon. It would be a pretty costly/time consuming way to make cartridges commercially. Atari 5200 Guy 1 Quote
Atari 5200 Guy Posted December 15, 2016 Report Posted December 15, 2016 (edited) I agree. But, just a theory, what if the game was faulty and repaired by the publisher/developer? That is a possibility. Very rare but it could be possible. Does the shell to your copy of this game look like the one in the first posting, RickR? Edited December 15, 2016 by kamakazi20012 Quote
RickR Posted December 15, 2016 Report Posted December 15, 2016 Yes. I'll post pics a little later. I think I have several "Spinnaker" games for the Atari 8-bit. Hopefully one has a loose label so I can open it up. Atari 5200 Guy and The Professor 2 Quote
RickR Posted December 15, 2016 Report Posted December 15, 2016 (edited) Well this is interesting. I don't own Kindercomp....but I own a couple of other Spinnaker carts. I actually have TWO copies of Alphabet Zoo, and they have two different shell types! (PS - one of these is now for sale/trade in my store). Note the grip strips on the back of the top row. I also included MasterType, which is a different company completely, yet uses the same cart shell as one of the Spinnaker games. None of mine has a loose label, so I can't open them up too see if an EEPROM is present. My best guess is that some of the minor 3rd party software houses farmed out the manufacture of their carts to whoever was cheapest, and that could change over a production run. That EEPROM board you found may just be a prototype/proof for a new cart production run. They didn't waste anything...just throw that test cart into the run.... Edited December 15, 2016 by RickR Atari 5200 Guy and Justin 2 Quote
Kid A Posted December 15, 2016 Author Report Posted December 15, 2016 I know its an officially released game but to be its weird that it has a sticker on the EPROM. i should hook up my 400 anf play it to see if theres any differences but i think my 400 is in storage. Atari 5200 Guy 1 Quote
Kid A Posted December 15, 2016 Author Report Posted December 15, 2016 Does the game have copyright text on a Title Screen or anything? Id have to check. I dont remember. Atari 5200 Guy 1 Quote
RickR Posted December 15, 2016 Report Posted December 15, 2016 The sticker is there to cover the window. These things are erased using UV light. The sticker prevents whats on there from being erased. Atari 5200 Guy 1 Quote
Scott Stilphen Posted February 9, 2017 Report Posted February 9, 2017 Smaller companies sometimes used EPROMS with their released carts. CommaVid, Games By Apollo, Spectravideo, Universal Gamex Corp, and Wizard Video Games all used EPROMS in their VCS carts. Justin 1 Quote
Video 61 Posted June 11, 2017 Report Posted June 11, 2017 So about 9 months ago, a friend came into a game shop i help out at and came in with a box that had an atari 400 which the housing was all cracked and broken, and a handfull of games like pengo, pole position, space invaders, donkey kong and more. There was one that was unmarked and had a label that reads GABE on it. He asked me if i wanted it for free and being it was pretty damaged. And naturally i said yeah! That night i test the 400 to see if it works,and it does! I pop in the cart marked GABE and its a game called Kindercomp. Today, for some reason i opened it and discovered that theres a EPROM that has a sticker on it. I know that this is not typically how its done. Do you guys think this is some sort of prototype? its a spinnaker cart for sure. as soon as i saw it, i said typical for them. they used a very poor glue material for their labels. that happens a lot. i still have some of their games in stock. thanks, lance www.atarisales.com Quote VIDEO 61 & ATARI SALESwww.atarisales.com22735 Congo St. NE, Stacy, MN 55079 651-462-2500
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