Justin

Something about her tone of voice and pious demeanor reminds me of Kai Winn. I think our Star Trek fans will appreciate what I mean 🖖 "...But the Atari Jaguar got COMPLETELY DESTROYED ®, my child. Just as the Prophets had wished it. Like and subscribe for more." - Winn Adami

@socrates63 I guarantee you, it will 🏆

I saw the title and that was enough for me to shine a spotlight on it, and allow nature to take its course. Correct, I agree with you in that context. If anything she could've juxtaposed the Jaguar against the Atari 2600 - Atari's greatest success in numbers, for comparison. Yes. Atari would've had an Amiga-based system in 1986-1987. Panther should've been ready prior to 1991. They skipped Panther and leapfrogged to Jaguar at the end of 1993. It was too late to properly fight the 16-Bit generation, and too early to the 32-64-Bit generation to fight Sony. The Atari Jaguar would more appropriately be compared to equally-niche "advanced" game systems in the same "leap" generation: 3DO (Panasonic FZ-1) Amiga CD32 FM Towns Marty Phillips Magnavox CD-i Sega 32x + Sega CD TurboDuo Super CD2 Neo-Geo CD Additionally, specific Atari Jaguar games could be compared with specific Super Nintendo and Sega Genesis games, for example games with pre-rendered graphics like Super Nintendo's Donkey Kong Country could be cited as an example that "You really didn't need a game system like the Atari Jaguar at that time, as you could create game cartridges that could deliver the same or superior gaming experience on existing popular platforms." My purpose in sharing this video was to shine a spotlight on it and encourage everyone who may see this thread over many years to come to stop by, correct misinformation, invite the rest of the world to give the Atari Jaguar a try, voice your opinion and make your voice be heard.

I appreciate you @Atari 5200 Guy I really do, and I have been a Jaguar aficionado literally since day one - but to convince people to see the Atari Jaguar as a "success" story is going to be a hard pill to swallow. I recommend instead helping people to see the truth of what really happened, within the context of the time

@walter_J64bit This is a tremendous opportunity to clearly, calmly and concisely correct the record - and to let the world see the Atari Jaguar has support in big numbers of people willing to turn out and speak up

I can attest that in my experience it has been exactly like that for Atari in general since the 16-Bit era. Even prior to the dawn of the modern internet. Mention Atari and you get trolled by normies at the first possible opportunity.

I’m guessing those are Amico fans angry and jealous of the relative success of the VCS and that you guys received your systems while Amico orders went unfulfilled. Why are there still Atari Jaguar trolls? Atari 7800 trolls? Because there are childish, angry people.

This is the correct take @Jinroh. I posted this video because I wanted to put a spotlight on it and allow Jaguar players to respond, correct disinformation, and make their voices heard. I grew up with the Atari Jaguar, I got it as a pre-order for my birthday and a week later I became the first owner in my state to have an Atari Jaguar. It was already being unfairly attacked - I guess because it was cool to hate Atari in 1993? From day one the Jaguar has been swamped and smeared with misinformation. I posted the video in our forums encouraging knowledgeable Jaguar aficionados to correct misinformation in her video and comments section about the Jaguar. A major objective of Atari I/O has been to "change the narrative" where Atari (and other games and platforms) have been unfairly maligned. For example, @btbfilms76 has a nice video explaining why the classic trope of attacking the Jaguar by comparing Trevor McFur to StarFox is apples and oranges and not an honest comparison to make. Hold these YouTubers accountable for their words. They are like assassins in a drive-by shooting. They take shots at their target (in this case the Jaguar) and speed off before help can arrive or they can be challenged in what they're saying. By then they're already onto their next attack for click$, ca$h and c£out.

I would encourage Jaguar enthusiasts to respectfully make your voice heard in the comments section of this video ⬆️

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I wish the controls could be redone on Karateka. I don't think it's bad looking, but it's almost impossible to play.

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@Silver Back Looking forward to this. It's incredibly valuable to other independent developers and homebrewers to be able to hear Osman tell his story, and what it took to make something of that level on the Atari 7800. Thanks again for making this happen

What I would most like to see again are the original 1982 Silver Box designs with the large Atari logotype at the top, as seen on E.T., Raiders, and others. The Atari 5200 launched with the blue variant of these boxes. To me they are the best looking.

@Funkmaster V Thank you for lining up this awesome interview and sharing it with us. Hands down one of the best guests you could've ever had. The Atari 7800 will forever be my favorite video game system. Ride or die. I wish we could've seen more top shelf games come out that would've rivaled the best Nintendo and Sega had to offer. Terrific interview, hoping to see more in the future.

My guess is they are referencing the original green Berzerk box for the 2600. I have the later release which was red.

I want to point out that Atari is doing this. Cheers to Atari for getting this right! The 4-in-1 Paddle Multicart shows "CX26501", Berzerk Enhanced Edition shows "CX26502" on the box, and Mr. Run and Jump shows "CX26503".

I love the original Gremlin prototype. When the Gremlin idea first arose and AMC, a concept car was built in 1968 based on the AMX - AMC's top 2-seater sports car - as opposed to the Hornet economy car which is what the production Gremlin was based on and shared most all of its components with. This concept, called the "AMX-GT" was the basis for what became the Gremlin, but its dimensions are fascinating as the AMX looks more intriguing with that bobtail kammback rear treatment than the Hornet.

@Video 61 Lance, that's incredible. Theoretically you could create an Atari Lynx or Jaguar version of Dandy?

@Video 61 When you say that you "still have the licenses" does that mean that you own the license to Dandy for certain platforms?

Right. So it was Stargate both at Warner Atari, Inc. and Tramiel Atari Corp. until an Atari Corp. reprinting in 1988. Seems accurate.

@Video 61 I was surprised Dark Chambers wasn't called Dandy. Dandy came straight out of the Atari Program Exchange. Yet Atari released Gauntlet: The Third Encounter on Atari Lynx. This is a great conversation on an interesting topic, I may split this off into its own thread

This is a really interesting topic that has fascinated me in the past. One of the most interesting things I've found about Stargate is that some of them have 1985 Atari Corp copyrights on the back of the box. There was very little of anything at all coming out for Atari video game systems in 1985. Most all copyrights found on cartridge boxes jump from 1984 Atari, Inc. to 1986 Atari Corp. Stargate I believe is the only Atari cartridge game I own with a 1985 copyright printed on the back of the box. I believe Gremlins on Atari 5200 is another one. You're right to think that's not true. The movie and game are a decade apart and unrelated. I remember after receiving Stargate via mail order directly from Atari in 1993, really enjoying the game - already then as a classic - and seeing that a movie called Stargate was coming out in Fall, 1994. I remember Stargate was in theaters at the same time as Star Trek: Generations. Stargate the game and Stargate the film and television franchise should not be conflated. The real issue is why and when did Atari release Stargate as Defender II? The Atari 2600 game was originally released as Stargate, the same name as the arcade version of the game. Only later was the 2600 version released as Defender II, as was the NES version. I've never located anything definitive as to why this happened, but there are lots of guesses and assumptions out there. Clearly it may be pertinent to legal issues pertaining to the usage of the "Stargate" and "Defender" trademarks - possibly "Stargate" had not been fully secured, or they were looking to bolster their claim to the "Defender" trademark. It may have also been a marketing decision - arcade gamers may have been familiar with Stargate, but far more people already knew Defender. It's possible marketing research showed that the game would sell better as Defender II than Stargate. Stargate was listed on the Atari Mail Order Form as Defender II. In 1993 my memories of most 2600 games were vague, and I had nothing to go by (no internet) except for the Atari Catalogs that came with the E.T. and Asteroids cartridges I had found on clearance at Kay-Bee Toys earlier that year. I knew Defender and people remembered it pretty fondly - I thought it looked pretty archaic, but knowing it was a "classic" I wanted to give it a try and ordered Defender II from Atari. (You can see all of this on my hand-written list of games I was ordering shown below - I only knew of "Defender 2" and not Stargate.) I will say, when Stargate showed up and I gave it a play, I was really, really impressed at the time by what they were able to do with a 2600 game. Stargate looked and played lightyears beyond what the original Defender had been. I was really into the Atari 7800 at the time, and I thought 2600 Stargate / Defender II looked and played nearly as well as what I would have wanted to see from a 7800 version of Defender. I thought it was a really well done game, and I'm glad 2600 gamers were able to get something like that on their system. I thought it blew away everything from the Intellivision, 5200, and ColecoVision. Atari 7800 6th Grade Strategy Guide.pdf