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Long story short, I was watching this video on the Jaguar and Jag CD by someone named Adam Koralik.  I posted a comment at least a year ago.  Through out the night there has been someone going by the name Gorilla Jones that has been replying to my comments.  I asked to share those posts on the forums here and even sent him an invite to the site.  But...wow...I don't even know what category to put this under.  Adjust accordingly.
 
We'll start with my original post that got the ball rolling:
 
Michael Allard Highlighted comment The Jaguar had the capabilities a Falcon was suppose to do.  Jag's only downfall is that Jack was a penny pincher.  With that said, sadly, the Jaguar only got 2 MB of RAM instead of 4.  That is the true bottleneck of the system...lack of RAM.  If it had more memory to play with then more might have been done with it.  What it got was impressive.  I've been a Jag owner since 1993 and consider it one of Atari's better ideas done wrong.  It's good but should have been better. Gorilla Jones Michael Allard ding ding ding. I visited Atari many times back in the day. We posed this question and Jack said it was still undecided. This was before Jaguars release. With a competent toolset, documentation, and 4MB of RAM it would have been a different story, truly.   Me: It does make one wonder "what if" if the Jaguar would have had that extra bit of RAM for developers to play around with. I have read the documentation that developers got for the system and it really isn't any wonder that they had trouble understanding it. To me it seems to bounce all over the place and it isn't really clear on how they system works from a programmer's point of view. It's still an awesome console and testament of what made Atari what it was.
 
 
Gorilla Jones  
+Michael Allard​​ what a lot of people don't realize is that Atari wasn't really corporate or professional about a lot of things. If you ever got to visit Sunnyvale you'd notice how messy things were. In reality, most of the Atari staff were just 70s nerds who were doing something cool. They were a cool bunch. And yes, Jack was a massive penny pincher. I always thought Leonard was afraid of Jack LOL. I remember during the official Jag reveal conference how laid back it was. Just some fold out tables covered with table cloths from a wedding caterer. They all had Jag T shirts, and pretty much addlib the conference. At the end they handed out Jaguar duffle bags filled with Jag goodies, like the chocolate CD, super soakers, hats. The **** people at the airport confiscated the super soakers lol. Still have the bag and other stuff though. The chocolate CD turned to dust. Jack was cheap, but when it came to media he spared no expense. He would pick us up in stretch limos and put us up in nice hotels, take us to amusement parks, dinners. Wish he would have put that money into the console.    Michael Allard Wow! It sounds like Jack had his good points, too. I agree that the money would have been beneficial if it were spent on the hardware he was trying to market. Would it be OK if I copy-pasted your comment with my friends at Atari.IO?  
Gorilla Jones +Michael Allard Sure. I'll try and remember more. It's been a long time and I'm an old man lol. I met Minter a couple of times. Such a cool laid back guy. I interviewed him for an article, but have spent years looking for the **** audio cassette. A funny story about one of our visits. We were on a stop over flight with the EGM guys. They were really obnoxious. When we landed since me and my partner only had carry on we went straight to the limo. When the driver asked us if there was anyone else we said no. We arrived at the hotel and registered as the EGM guys since they had a suite. The next day they were furious. Yeah, kind of childish but they deserved it. They were ****. Trying to remember the Atari employee who showed us around that day, he had false vampire teeth implanted surgically, so weird. I think he was involved with black ice white noise but can't remember. He was super nice.   
For family-friendly reasons I did edit some of the posts.  If you want to view the postings in full I will link to the video.  Mine should be the top-most post.
 

 
Sounds like an interesting guy.  If you guys know Gorilla and don't want him here for one reason or another then my apologies.  It just sounds like he has a lot of information pertaining to Atari that might be of interest. 

My favorite "must own" titles are easily Berzerk, Qix, and Pac-Man (which blew my mind as a kid with a 2600!) Centipede and Missile  Command are must haves if you have a trakball!

Nevertheless is this a cozy alternate universe!

That's really interesting.
In many german forums you can find a subcategory of people, which have to bash everything. Give them a catchword, they will goof on:
Nintendo Switch?
Oh it will be a mess. I know that.
PS4?
Oh, don't talk any further, it sucks! I know that.
Atari Jaguar?
Oh, was a complete failure. I know that.
 
I think, they live in a dark and cold hole, have never seen the sunlight, only eat and drink pizza, potatoe chips and cherry coke and do not believe in the existence of women.
Is it possible, that they have digged tubes to UK and live now in british cellars and dungeons?

That's really interesting.
In many german forums you can find a subcategory of people, which have to bash everything. Give them a catchword, they will goof on:
Nintendo Switch?
Oh it will be a mess. I know that.
PS4?
Oh, don't talk any further, it sucks! I know that.
Atari Jaguar?
Oh, was a complete failure. I know that.
 
I think, they live in a dark and cold hole, have never seen the sunlight, only eat and drink pizza, potatoe chips and cherry coke and do not believe in the existence of women.
Is it possible, that they have digged tubes to UK and live now in british cellars and dungeons?

The problem of Amiga/ST was the fact, that CBM and Atari haven't recognized the winds of change. As in 8Bit-times they haven't improved the hardware over the years or they hadn't done in in time. There was no need to improve the C64, so they thought the same for ST and Amiga. For example the Falcon was almost two years too late.
 
CBM hadn't realized, that the Amiga was an Entertainment machine. They wanted a business machine. The A1000 was too expensive for the consumer-market and there was not enough software to be successfull in the business-sector. They saw no use or need to support software developers for office software. So these developers went to Apple and Mac. CBM also had financial problems in 1985/86. Not very auspicious for the introduction of a new machine.
 
Both had underestimated the consoles as contenders. The C64GS and the Atari XEGS are good examples for that failure.
 
Even the pre-Windows-PC was not really realized as a danger: "Our GUI-machines are much better than that DOS-CLI-fuss! Nuff' said!"
Now they are older and wiser.
 
The neckbreaking point for CBM was the Amiga 600, technically a real nonsense with the smell of mothballs. They produced a huge number of them. In favour of the A600 the development of other models was reduced. All done by Bill Sydnes, who was called the human bus error! CBM Germany wanted to sell 200 000 A600 in three months. Imagine that. Even in "Amigaland" Germany these were crazy numbers. And as mentioned above the Falcon was a late bird, but technically spoken brilliant. Same about Amiga 1200.
 
The QL had had another problem. It was a UK-only machine. In Germany was little to read about that machine. Oh, there was a german version with black-red-gold-tricolour and QWERTZ-keyboard, but the written news weren't overwhelming, advertisement nonexistent. Imo even the european market as a whole was not enough to withstand the ST.

The problem of Amiga/ST was the fact, that CBM and Atari haven't recognized the winds of change. As in 8Bit-times they haven't improved the hardware over the years or they hadn't done in in time. There was no need to improve the C64, so they thought the same for ST and Amiga. For example the Falcon was almost two years too late.
 
CBM hadn't realized, that the Amiga was an Entertainment machine. They wanted a business machine. The A1000 was too expensive for the consumer-market and there was not enough software to be successfull in the business-sector. They saw no use or need to support software developers for office software. So these developers went to Apple and Mac. CBM also had financial problems in 1985/86. Not very auspicious for the introduction of a new machine.
 
Both had underestimated the consoles as contenders. The C64GS and the Atari XEGS are good examples for that failure.
 
Even the pre-Windows-PC was not really realized as a danger: "Our GUI-machines are much better than that DOS-CLI-fuss! Nuff' said!"
Now they are older and wiser.
 
The neckbreaking point for CBM was the Amiga 600, technically a real nonsense with the smell of mothballs. They produced a huge number of them. In favour of the A600 the development of other models was reduced. All done by Bill Sydnes, who was called the human bus error! CBM Germany wanted to sell 200 000 A600 in three months. Imagine that. Even in "Amigaland" Germany these were crazy numbers. And as mentioned above the Falcon was a late bird, but technically spoken brilliant. Same about Amiga 1200.
 
The QL had had another problem. It was a UK-only machine. In Germany was little to read about that machine. Oh, there was a german version with black-red-gold-tricolour and QWERTZ-keyboard, but the written news weren't overwhelming, advertisement nonexistent. Imo even the european market as a whole was not enough to withstand the ST.

Hah if only! Somewhere in an alternate universe! 
 

That sexy bastard next to your Crystal Castles is my dream machine!!! 

Good news! Thanx for that!

Good news! Thanx for that!

The Lynx is my favourite Handheld, despite the PSP, PSV, 3DS, DS, GBC, GB, GBA and all the others. These are my dearly beloved titles without precedence:
 
Rygar
 
Zaku
 
Shanghai
 
Klax
 
Blue Lightning
 
Checkered Flag
 
I want to like Chips Challenge, but i can't. It is surely a great title, but i can't go with it. Sorry for that.
 
Oh mess! There are also Xybots and Warbirds. It's really hard to appoint some favourites.

Nice video and the sight of a lovely landscape in anchorman's background!

Wizard of Wor needs to be hacked. It must be started as player two, so this should be changed.

Mine does crackle too. Furthermore the Battery low lamp doesn't work!

Z-Tack by Bomb. I had paid 11 € for the game with box and manual. It was just a lucky day!

Wizard of Wor needs to be hacked. It must be started as player two, so this should be changed.

The Lynx is my favourite Handheld, despite the PSP, PSV, 3DS, DS, GBC, GB, GBA and all the others. These are my dearly beloved titles without precedence:
 
Rygar
 
Zaku
 
Shanghai
 
Klax
 
Blue Lightning
 
Checkered Flag
 
I want to like Chips Challenge, but i can't. It is surely a great title, but i can't go with it. Sorry for that.
 
Oh mess! There are also Xybots and Warbirds. It's really hard to appoint some favourites.

Mine does crackle too. Furthermore the Battery low lamp doesn't work!

The Lynx is my favourite Handheld, despite the PSP, PSV, 3DS, DS, GBC, GB, GBA and all the others. These are my dearly beloved titles without precedence:
 
Rygar
 
Zaku
 
Shanghai
 
Klax
 
Blue Lightning
 
Checkered Flag
 
I want to like Chips Challenge, but i can't. It is surely a great title, but i can't go with it. Sorry for that.
 
Oh mess! There are also Xybots and Warbirds. It's really hard to appoint some favourites.

Mine does crackle too. Furthermore the Battery low lamp doesn't work!

Is he THAT old?
 
 
Ähm no, that Othello guy don't have his sunny smile.

I swear by Nolan, i love your reviews!
 
Yesterday i have made a 3 hour marathon and was amazed. It was the pure fun.
 
The weekend will be filled by many happy hours with my 2600. Gosh i'm geil*!
 
*geil ['gail]: german word for randy, ruttish, prurient

I love and adore Tempest!

I like the music of Welle Erdball. They call the C64 a band member and have an own sound and  aesthetic appeal. Here are some songs and appearences:
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VCNbnUXW9JA
A live appearence. VERY good!
 

A song called Deutsche Liebe
 

Liebe der 3. Art
 

Schweben, Fliegen, Fallen
 

1000 Engel
 

Arbeit adelt