[LIKE / DISLIKE these Computer Movies & Shows?]

What are your thoughts on these Computer related movies and television shows?

[Post your latest/recent pickups!]

  Heads up: I'll be splitting our conversations about Stargate vs. Defender II, and Gauntlet vs. Dark Chambers vs. Dandy into new topics.

Not because any of those discussions are "off-topic" - they're fantastic and I want to encourage deep dive conversations to spawn from our recent pickups - that's the point, to show your latest pickups and have those branch into new conversations. Sometimes the conversations that stem from recent pickups are interesting enough to be their own thread. I want to foster those conversations here, and if occasionally we split them off into their own Topic, that's a big win for everybody.

[The AMC Gremlin 401-XR]

I thought this was a great advertisement. Especially the Dog. It's very relatable and it was always fun to flip through old volumes of National Geographic to find vintage AMC ads. You're likely to find ads for Atari 400/800 computers quite often also.

 

[Why Atari Jaguar Got COMPLETELY DESTROYED! - Video by "Lady Decade"]

9 hours ago, RickR said:

The word "DESTROYED" is a click-bait trigger, no?  Anyway, I clicked the "thumbs down" dislike and moved on. 

 

2 hours ago, Atari 5200 Guy said:

It was evident from the fist words out of her mouth the Jaguar didn't stand a chance.  

 

Something about her tone of voice and pious demeanor reminds me of Kai Winn. I think our Star Trek fans will appreciate what I mean 🖖

"...But the Atari Jaguar got COMPLETELY DESTROYED ®, my child. Just as the Prophets had wished it. Like and subscribe for more." - Winn Adami

 

[Why Atari Jaguar Got COMPLETELY DESTROYED! - Video by "Lady Decade"]

50 minutes ago, socrates63 said:

I sincerely hope the I/O community continues to keep the Jaguar love alive.

@socrates63 I guarantee you, it will 🏆  

 

2 hours ago, Atari 5200 Guy said:

I remember looking at that ad for a very long time wondering when I'd see one in person.  I really loved the sleek design of the console.  Shortly after I got mine Wal-Mart had a small Jaguar section.  But before I could even save up to buy anything they had it disappeared.  That section might have lasted a few months to year.  I don't know for certain but it did seem like it left almost as quick as it came.  The demo unit was hardly touched when I was there.

I remember that quite well. For us that appeared in Summer, 1995 and I already felt like a Jaguar veteran in the 16-Bit and Next-Gen wars.

Atari got wide distribution into Walmart? Why did they disappear? I think @Video 61 may know the answer. I encourage him to dive deeper into this in an upcoming Blog. Tramiels dropping the Jaguar is quite a topic.

[Why Atari Jaguar Got COMPLETELY DESTROYED! - Video by "Lady Decade"]

12 hours ago, - Ω - said:

After reading the comments here, and seeing that the video is 38 minutes in length, I didn't bother to watch it.

 

12 hours ago, RickR said:

I'm with you on this.  It's gotta be something really worth watching to get 30 minutes of my time. 

 

11 hours ago, Atari 5200 Guy said:

I watched part of it and listened to her closing statements.

 

I saw the title and that was enough for me to shine a spotlight on it, and allow nature to take its course.

 

11 hours ago, Atari 5200 Guy said:

She compared the Jaguar to the NES, Saturn, and PSOne. Which quite honestly should not have been done.  It was compared to the wrong systems.  The NES shouldn't have been considered.  Neither should have the two 32-bit systems.

Correct, I agree with you in that context. If anything she could've juxtaposed the Jaguar against the Atari 2600 - Atari's greatest success in numbers, for comparison.

 

11 hours ago, Atari 5200 Guy said:

The Jaguar was not a part of that generation.  It belongs with the Genesis and Super NES.  Those were the consoles it was marketed against.  

Yes. Atari would've had an Amiga-based system in 1986-1987. Panther should've been ready prior to 1991. They skipped Panther and leapfrogged to Jaguar at the end of 1993. It was too late to properly fight the 16-Bit generation, and too early to the 32-64-Bit generation to fight Sony.

The Atari Jaguar would more appropriately be compared to equally-niche "advanced" game systems in the same "leap" generation:

• 3DO (Panasonic FZ-1)
• Amiga CD32
• FM Towns Marty
• Phillips Magnavox CD-i
• Sega 32x + Sega CD
• TurboDuo Super CD2
• Neo-Geo CD

Additionally, specific Atari Jaguar games could be compared with specific Super Nintendo and Sega Genesis games, for example games with pre-rendered graphics like Super Nintendo's Donkey Kong Country could be cited as an example that "You really didn't need a game system like the Atari Jaguar at that time, as you could create game cartridges that could deliver the same or superior gaming experience on existing popular platforms."

 

My purpose in sharing this video was to shine a spotlight on it and encourage everyone who may see this thread over many years to come to stop by, correct misinformation, invite the rest of the world to give the Atari Jaguar a try, voice your opinion and make your voice be heard.

[Why Atari Jaguar Got COMPLETELY DESTROYED! - Video by "Lady Decade"]

14 hours ago, Atari 5200 Guy said:

It was not a failure.

I appreciate you @Atari 5200 Guy I really do, and I have been a Jaguar aficionado literally since day one - but to convince people to see the Atari Jaguar as a "success" story is going to be a hard pill to swallow.

I recommend instead helping people to see the truth of what really happened, within the context of the time 

[Why Atari Jaguar Got COMPLETELY DESTROYED! - Video by "Lady Decade"]

26 minutes ago, walter_J64bit said:

She's a Nintendo Fanboy so what comes out her mouth is nothing but misinformation. 🤮

@walter_J64bit This is a tremendous opportunity to clearly, calmly and concisely correct the record - and to let the world see the Atari Jaguar has support in big numbers of people willing to turn out and speak up  

[Dynablaster]

14 minutes ago, RickR said:

Bring up the VCS or even the unreleased Atari 2600+, and the trolls will list a ton of ridiculous reasons to hate on it.

I can attest that in my experience it has been exactly like that for Atari in general since the 16-Bit era. Even prior to the dawn of the modern internet. Mention Atari and you get trolled by normies at the first possible opportunity.

[Dynablaster]

1 hour ago, RickR said:

Very poetic! 

Q:  Why are there STILL VCS trolls?  It's been out and reasonably successful for a couple of years now.  Can't they just move on and leave it alone if they don't like it?

 

I’m guessing those are Amico fans angry and jealous of the relative success of the VCS and that you guys received your systems while Amico orders went unfulfilled.

Why are there still Atari Jaguar trolls? Atari 7800 trolls? Because there are childish, angry people.

[Why Atari Jaguar Got COMPLETELY DESTROYED! - Video by "Lady Decade"]

13 minutes ago, Jinroh said:

I saw this earlier too. I did not get to listen yet, but sounds dumb and clickbaity way to say, "Atari Mismanagement & saturated market, led to downfall of a 64-bit black beauty". Her and her husband Top Hat Gaming man, make some decent things, but sometimes dumb and narcissistic like most "influencers".

Hustle if you like attention, but I hate attention, so I don't understand the modern internet. 😛

This is the correct take @Jinroh. I posted this video because I wanted to put a spotlight on it and allow Jaguar players to respond, correct disinformation, and make their voices heard.

I grew up with the Atari Jaguar, I got it as a pre-order for my birthday and a week later I became the first owner in my state to have an Atari Jaguar. It was already being unfairly attacked - I guess because it was cool to hate Atari in 1993? From day one the Jaguar has been swamped and smeared with misinformation. I posted the video in our forums encouraging knowledgeable Jaguar aficionados to correct misinformation in her video and comments section about the Jaguar.

A major objective of Atari I/O has been to "change the narrative" where Atari (and other games and platforms) have been unfairly maligned. For example, @btbfilms76 has a nice video explaining why the classic trope of attacking the Jaguar by comparing Trevor McFur to StarFox is apples and oranges and not an honest comparison to make.

Hold these YouTubers accountable for their words. They are like assassins in a drive-by shooting. They take shots at their target (in this case the Jaguar) and speed off before help can arrive or they can be challenged in what they're saying. By then they're already onto their next attack for click$, ca$h and c£out.

[Why Atari Jaguar Got COMPLETELY DESTROYED! - Video by "Lady Decade"]

 

 

  I would encourage Jaguar enthusiasts to respectfully make your voice heard in the comments section of this video    ⬆️

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[I want to beat every 7800 game that can be...]

On 8/19/2023 at 7:48 AM, Silver Back said:

Karateka is done.  And I'll probably never touch it again honestly... Maybe the apple ii version one day when...

 

 

 

 

I wish the controls could be redone on Karateka. I don't think it's bad looking, but it's almost impossible to play.

[Space Taxi now available for Atari 8-bit]

WELCOME @Andreatari it's wonderful to have you join us here! 

[Rikki & Vikki Developer Interview- Today at 2pm EST]

14 hours ago, Silver Back said:

Similar to the dragons havoc video, portions of this interview will be edited into my upcoming Rikki and Vikki video.

@Silver Back Looking forward to this. It's incredibly valuable to other independent developers and homebrewers to be able to hear Osman tell his story, and what it took to make something of that level on the Atari 7800. Thanks again for making this happen 

[Atari XP Physical Releases - Atari Releasing New Atari 2600 Game Cartridges!]

What I would most like to see again are the original 1982 Silver Box designs with the large Atari logotype at the top, as seen on E.T., Raiders, and others. The Atari 5200 launched with the blue variant of these boxes. To me they are the best looking.

 

[Rikki & Vikki Developer Interview- Today at 2pm EST]

@Funkmaster V Thank you for lining up this awesome interview and sharing it with us. Hands down one of the best guests you could've ever had. The Atari 7800 will forever be my favorite video game system. Ride or die. I wish we could've seen more top shelf games come out that would've rivaled the best Nintendo and Sega had to offer. Terrific interview, hoping to see more in the future.

[Atari XP Physical Releases - Atari Releasing New Atari 2600 Game Cartridges!]

My guess is they are referencing the original green Berzerk box for the 2600. I have the later release which was red.

[Atari XP Physical Releases - Atari Releasing New Atari 2600 Game Cartridges!]

On 8/6/2023 at 1:16 AM, Justin said:

Also - I think this is an important thought - it would be wise of Atari to assign these new games CX numbers and include them at the bottom of the box. For example, Mr. Run and Jump would be CX-26191 or wherever we're at now. There's no reason not to continue the product numbering system if these are going to be official releases.

 

I want to point out that Atari is doing this. Cheers to Atari for getting this right! The 4-in-1 Paddle Multicart shows "CX26501", Berzerk Enhanced Edition shows "CX26502" on the box, and Mr. Run and Jump shows "CX26503". 

[The AMC Gremlin 401-XR]

I love the original Gremlin prototype. When the Gremlin idea first arose and AMC, a concept car was built in 1968 based on the AMX - AMC's top 2-seater sports car - as opposed to the Hornet economy car which is what the production Gremlin was based on and shared most all of its components with. This concept, called the "AMX-GT" was the basis for what became the Gremlin, but its dimensions are fascinating as the AMX looks more intriguing with that bobtail kammback rear treatment than the Hornet.

 

 

[Gauntlet vs. Dark Chambers vs. Dandy]

6 minutes ago, Video 61 said:

i have their cart version, as well as their disk version, and the licenses to make a lot of them, more than a life times worth. the only platforms of course are atari ones.

 

@Video 61 Lance, that's incredible. Theoretically you could create an Atari Lynx or Jaguar version of Dandy?

[Gauntlet vs. Dark Chambers vs. Dandy]

2 hours ago, Video 61 said:

i bought out main street distribution and still have the licenses.

@Video 61 When you say that you "still have the licenses" does that mean that you own the license to Dandy for certain platforms?

[Stargate vs. Defender II Atari 2600]

Right. So it was Stargate both at Warner Atari, Inc. and Tramiel Atari Corp. until an Atari Corp. reprinting in 1988. Seems accurate.

[Gauntlet vs. Dark Chambers vs. Dandy]

46 minutes ago, Video 61 said:

atari games released many atari brand named games on other platforms, and the lynx.

@Video 61 I was surprised Dark Chambers wasn't called Dandy. Dandy came straight out of the Atari Program Exchange. Yet Atari released Gauntlet: The Third Encounter on Atari Lynx.

This is a great conversation on an interesting topic, I may split this off into its own thread