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#1 Justin

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Posted 20 October 2016 - 10:43 AM


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Posted 20 October 2016 - 11:32 AM

I'm not a huge Nintendo fan, but you have to appreciate that they try to innovate and take risks. This stands in contrast to MS and Sony, who seem to offer little more to the gameplay experience than graphical enhancements with each console iteration.
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Posted 20 October 2016 - 12:57 PM

Meh, I'll pass. No need for a portable myself and other than it's ability to "switch" that they seemed to be trying to drive home in this promo I see nothing new here. If this is replacing the WiiU I am not impressed in the slightest. 


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Posted 20 October 2016 - 01:23 PM

Meh, I'll pass. No need for a portable myself and other than it's ability to "switch" that they seemed to be trying to drive home in this promo I see nothing new here. If this is replacing the WiiU I am not impressed in the slightest. 

My feelings as well. This is basically a Neo Geo X Gold with the Nintendo name and obvious controller difference, etc. It almost appears to be a step backward from the Wii but I don't really know enough about it I guess. The other serious problem now seems to be the amount of entertainment options in general. PC Gaming, PSVR, my occasional obsession with classic games and basic movies and such in general already exceed any amount of spare time I have as it is.

 

I can appreciate that they're willing to try something different but it just seems like a smaller form factor of the WiiU anyways, no? There seems to be some actual excitement behind it. I'm more excited, if that's the word you want to use, about their mini NES console than the NX/Switch.


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Posted 20 October 2016 - 01:31 PM

Looks like its trying to be many things but won't be very good at any of them.

Another Nintendo product that wasn't engineered for gamers.


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Posted 20 October 2016 - 01:34 PM

I will say it really seems like another gadget for the Nintendo specific fans yet again. I get it, Nintendo is not competing with anyone else, they haven't for some time, I just wish they WOULD but clearly they never intend to again. I just not been into Nintendo exclusive titles for a long time and I am betting the 3rd party support will be same as always meaning very little and what there IS of it will be just be ports of games that are dummied down version for a less powerful console. Oh it would be nice if instead they released specific games that played to this new devices strengths (like Nintendo originally promised with the WiiU) but instead 3rd parties don't seem to want to support Nintendo with good exclusive titles anymore. I wish that were not the case BUT YOU KNOW IT IS GOING TO BE :P


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Posted 20 October 2016 - 02:26 PM

Nintendo are far from the only one's taking risks and have been for a long, long time..

 

 

Sega risked everything on Online Gaming being the next big thing, rather than putting a DVD drive in the Dreamcast, backed wrong horse....

 

 

MS, having studied data taken from online 360 owners, thought people were more interested in TV/Movies etc than games, hence XB1 designed to have your Digital/Cable TV plugged in, Kinect bundled as standard, plus they gambled that Sony would use faster Ram, but far less of it, than XB1, 2-4 G at most....lost that bet....paid a high price this generation.

 

 

Having watched the cringeworthy advert for Switch...

 

 

Amazes me that because it's a Nintendo handheld, the sheer size of the damn thing suddenly isn't an issue..that's why i have a bag/carry case was 1 smug reply i read online, yet people to this day slag off the Lynx MK 1 for it's size....

 

 

It's not a new concept here, is it?

 

Neo Geo X Gold done the whole hybrid/docking station lark, PSP Slim had TV out etc.

 

Nvidia Shield was a games tablet but with proper controls.

 

 

It's what the Wii U should of been and seems to of delighted the Nintendo faithfull :)

 

 

But so far for myself, it joins Sony with Move, Eyetoy and VR, MS with Kinect etc as being all about the gimmick.

 

 

 

Without killer titles that utilise the unique features, these are just expensive attempts at bonding age old game mechanics with latest gimmicks.

 

 

After all the hype, so dissapointing.....

 

 

I had hoped for something that'd shake up those involved in this arms race...1080P, no 4K, 30 fps, no 60 FPS, no 120 FPS...most powerful..blah blah snorefest the industry has degenerated into, instead it's gimmicks ahoy...


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Posted 20 October 2016 - 04:00 PM

Personally I am holding out for THIS! 

 

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Posted 20 October 2016 - 04:09 PM

I guess I'm the lone hold out here, but what I saw of the Switch rather excited me.

The name is a bit wonky, but that's not a new thing with Nintendo. (GameCube, N64, Wii, WiiU, just to name a few...)

The Switch looks fresh, though, and the number of 3rd Party developers that say they have a hat in the ring to make a game for it seems to be quite a bit larger than there was for the WiiU. We'll have to wait and see if that really does pan out.

Long story short, though, I really want a Switch, and this may turn out to be the third time I ever purchase a console brand new.

That... And I REALLY want to play Breath of the Wild.

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Posted 20 October 2016 - 04:35 PM

Nintendo are far from the only one's taking risks and have been for a long, long time..

 

 

Sega risked everything on Online Gaming being the next big thing, rather than putting a DVD drive in the Dreamcast, backed wrong horse....

 

 

MS, having studied data taken from online 360 owners, thought people were more interested in TV/Movies etc than games, hence XB1 designed to have your Digital/Cable TV plugged in, Kinect bundled as standard, plus they gambled that Sony would use faster Ram, but far less of it, than XB1, 2-4 G at most....lost that bet....paid a high price this generation.

 

 

Having watched the cringeworthy advert for Switch...

 

 

Amazes me that because it's a Nintendo handheld, the sheer size of the damn thing suddenly isn't an issue..that's why i have a bag/carry case was 1 smug reply i read online, yet people to this day slag off the Lynx MK 1 for it's size....

 

 

It's not a new concept here, is it?

 

Neo Geo X Gold done the whole hybrid/docking station lark, PSP Slim had TV out etc.

 

Nvidia Shield was a games tablet but with proper controls.

 

 

It's what the Wii U should of been and seems to of delighted the Nintendo faithfull :)

 

 

But so far for myself, it joins Sony with Move, Eyetoy and VR, MS with Kinect etc as being all about the gimmick.

 

 

 

Without killer titles that utilise the unique features, these are just expensive attempts at bonding age old game mechanics with latest gimmicks.

 

 

After all the hype, so dissapointing.....

 

 

I had hoped for something that'd shake up those involved in this arms race...1080P, no 4K, 30 fps, no 60 FPS, no 120 FPS...most powerful..blah blah snorefest the industry has degenerated into, instead it's gimmicks ahoy...

It was funny to see them "showing off" that their machine could play Skyrim, a 6 year old game.


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Posted 20 October 2016 - 05:08 PM

I guess they used Skyrim to demonstrate the type of big name games folks should expect and maybe it will get Skyrim Remastered in a slightly cut down form? But having completed it long ago on 360 and having found it lacked the impact that Oblivion had when I left the dungeon...probably 1ST game of that generation to really impress me (I had the PS3 version)...

It now seems bizzare it's being used to showcase what will be 2017 hardware in UK..

Plus, with no word on battery life, it's not something that will automatically work on the go...

And if your looking to play it at home you could pick up an XB1, PS4 slim and game itself and probably get a better looking version as if Nintendo want to keep Switch price low, I doubt the docking station will do much more than upscale to tv..
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Posted 20 October 2016 - 05:13 PM

The video felt a little hokey, but I think the actual product looks pretty cool. :) But on my budget I have trouble justifying the expense of buying brand new consoles and games.


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Posted 20 October 2016 - 05:42 PM

Did they actually push any hardware specifications? I didn't think I did. I just am waiting for the Wii U to get even cheaper.
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Posted 20 October 2016 - 06:46 PM

I just want gaming to excite me, the way it once did....and as it stands, not 1 of them is doing that...

 

 

VR has been rolled out before and it's a very anti-social gaming experience, people can wax on about the immersion etc, but to my cynical eyes, it's a golf clap for Sony..bravo, they've finally found a way of shifting EyeToy and Move, ever since the bubble burst on PS2 for the camera and Move was pulled out of mothballing in R+D where it had been in development alongside the PS2 camera....

 

 

MS can talk up the arms race with Scorpio, but if it's cutting edge i want? hello PC, it has all the flagship titles MS bring to Xbox , plus a whole lot more.

 

 

So my hope for something radical lay with Nintendo and now it's been shown?

 

Bloody hell....your showing me..Skyrim....

 

 

It's bad enbough that i'm drowning in HD collections and Remasters on PS3 and PS4...the prospect of PS3/360 titles i finished long ago, is not the future i wished for.

 

 

I find today's games ..disposable, rather than future classics in the making.

 

I've just completed Xcom II on PS4, enjoyable, but unlike Xcom on PS3 let alonethe original on PS1 etc, i cannot see myself replaying, let alone buying the DLC....

 

 

I doubt i'll finish Bloodborne on PS4, yet was on NG++ of Demon's Souls on PS3, completed Dark Souls and DS II, plus all their DLC on PS3, no intention of getting DSIII on PS4 as i've had my fill.

 

 

Next to try is Uncharted 4, expecting it to look lush, but feel very familar.

 

 

No one is pushing the envelope any more and nothing i've seen from Nintendo suggests they are going to be the ones that will at least try.

 

 

It'll be more Mario Kart etc, plus encouraging more 3rd parties to port remasters etc , hopefully i'm proven very wrong, but..................


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Posted 20 October 2016 - 07:21 PM

You are not alone, Lee, it sort of excited me as well. It also explains Nintendo's interest in moble gaming over the past several months. I liked the concept they showed about multiplayer gaming. It makes sense what Nintendo is trying to do and appears, with a single console, is compete in a tablet market. But, all kidding aside, I will be keeping an eye out for Switch and Mini Classic. As long as the price seems fair I might go with it but it all depends on the games.

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Posted 20 October 2016 - 08:53 PM

Did they actually push any hardware specifications? I didn't think I did. I just am waiting for the Wii U to get even cheaper.

Though nothing solid I am hearing an Nvidia Tegra variant? 

 

https://blogs.nvidia...intendo-switch/

 

I did find THIS posted in a few articles. TAKE IT WITH A GRAIN OF SALT UNTIL CONFIRMED.

 

 Nintendo Switch specifications
After Nvidia's last showing with the RSX chip on the PS3, the Nintendo Switch will be sporting a custom Tegra processor, another leak that has come true. According to Nvidia, it's a "high-efficiency scalable processor includes an Nvidia GPU based on the same architecture as the world’s top-performing GeForce gaming graphics cards." The idea is, according to the company, to allow blistering fast to the mainstream, building NVN - a new API to make this possible, along with a new physics engine, advanced game tools, and libraries to boot. Though nothing has been said of its raw performance numbers, its developer kits allegedly sport the following specifications:

  • Four ARM Cortex-A57 cores, max 2GHz
  • Nvidia second-generation Maxwell architecture
  • 256 CUDA cores, max 1GHz, 1024 FLOPS/cycle
  • 4GB RAM (25.6 GB/s, VRAM shared)
  • 32 GB storage (Max transfer 400 MB/s)
  • USB 2.0 and  3.0
  • 1280 x 720 6.2-inch IPS LCD
  • 1080p at 60 fps or 4k at 30 fps max video output
  • Capcitance method, 10-point multi-touch

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Posted 20 October 2016 - 09:00 PM

As I stated above, I admire their continued willingness to innovate in design to deliver a somewhat unique experience. The reason I pass on modern Nintendo consoles is that (1) while I enjoy their classic IP, I feel like I've played all of the Mario, Zelda, Metroid, etc. that I really want to, and (2) because they don't produce consoles with comparable tech specs to PC, MS or Sony, third party support is lackluster. The original Wii was likely the last Nintendo console I'll purchase.

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Posted 20 October 2016 - 09:19 PM

I think that lost dragon might be onto something
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Posted 21 October 2016 - 03:28 AM

XCOM 2 had a patch, yet loading times got worse nearer the end of the game I got, plus bug on last 2 missions saw game black screen for 5 mins after playing a cutscene...

That's poor..

I popped in Uncharted 4 and left the PS4 in powersave mode whilst in downloaded an 18 G patch...

This is only going to get worse as developers patch in VR,HDR and Pro support..

I look at Switch, those controllers would be like a giant holding a matchbox for my hands...

Plus what do you do once the connectors start to fail? As they are going to under go a lot of wear and tear..

And why are the best games being showcased on these new gadgets,throwback to yesterday?

Rez on PS VR they tell me was always designed with VR in mind..

Right so 15 years ago plan was release on Dreamcast, then PS2 but add trance vibrator then do HD version on later hardware, now VR version, so no doubt there will be a 4K version as folks can say, ohh it was always designed with 4K in mind...

PS5 better be built from ground up hardware and offer a damn sight more than being Scorpio but 2 generations ahead power wise and Sony offer up the Ultimate 8K Uncharted edition with a patch that takes a fortnight to download and install...

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Posted 21 October 2016 - 11:25 AM

The question I would have for those that are skeptical:

 

What exactly would blow your socks off? 

 

When I ask myself that question, I come up with a shrug of the shoulders. 

 

In my opinion, Nintendo is not bothering to compete with Sony and Microsoft anymore.  They are taking on the "tablet/phone" gaming market.  Gaming on tablets and phones is very popular, but not very good (due to bad controls).  They are trying to bridge the gap between mobile and home systems.  It's an interesting approach, and probably a good one if you really stop to think about it.  How many of us still game on a DS or 3DS?   I still do and still love it.  There's nothing better than those really.  I'd love to see something better.  Sony tried with the Vita, but that was just more of the same-old, same-old.  Add in the fact that you can then just plug it in at home to play the same games on a bigger screen.  I know, been done before...but needs to be perfected. 

 

Well, that's my take anyways.  I know this thing looks like it has too many doo-dads and may be too complex.  But I'll give them the benefit of the doubt and see what they can come up with. 






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